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popeye
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posted 03-04-2004 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popeye   Click Here to Email popeye     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone heard of"Professional Products ? eBay item 2463956152 (Ends Mar-07-04 200220 PST) - NEW FORD 351W ALUMINUM INTAKE MANIFOLD SATIN.htm $149. buy it now.Looks like a nice piece for the money.What do you think?

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kid vishus
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posted 03-04-2004 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kid vishus   Click Here to Email kid vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Never heard of them before.

How have you been Gene?

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Dave_C
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posted 03-04-2004 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave_C   Click Here to Email Dave_C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One of the speed shops in Birmingham carries them. I looked at one up close. Looked like it was cast by a couple of drunk monkeys with a bucket full of molten aluminum.

They have without a doubt the worst as-cast runners and plenum I have ever seen in any intake. The guys at the speed shop told me they sell lots of them to street rod guys because they can buy it with a factory polished finish for the same price as a non-polished Ebok intake. These guys are far more worried about looks than performance.

Later,
David Cole

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popeye
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posted 03-04-2004 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popeye   Click Here to Email popeye     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Bob good how bout you ? Just been surfing the web for used parts for the Comet like "Rons toilet",any out there that you know of?, set of wheels,slicks,you know the high dollar stuff Got a line on a full set of alumastars with 14x32 stonesJust 6 miles away...gotta wait about a week to try a rear wheel on the Comet...need about 6.5 " of back space Gene

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popeye
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posted 03-04-2004 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popeye   Click Here to Email popeye     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dave_C:
One of the speed shops in Birmingham carries them. I looked at one up close. Looked like it was cast by a couple of drunk monkeys with a bucket full of molten aluminum.

They have without a doubt the worst as-cast runners and plenum I have ever seen in any intake. The guys at the speed shop told me they sell lots of them to street rod guys because they can buy it with a factory polished for the same price as a non-polished Ebok intake. These guys are far more worried about looks than performance.

Later,
David Cole



Dave that makes cents and the ebay member's userI D is dirtrack somethin...go figure.

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posted 03-04-2004 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
3rd world Asian made copycat crap.

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kid vishus
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posted 03-04-2004 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kid vishus   Click Here to Email kid vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by popeye:
...need about 6.5 " of back space...

That's not bad, mine have 7.5" of backspacing. And that's a 15x12 rim with a 14x32 tire. It's as big as I can fit under the car. There is room for more tire if I could get a bigger rim, but the rear end needs narrowed more to make that work. I would love to run a 16x33 tire.

Not sure where you can get a decent used injection system. The guys that buy them and have luck with them keep them. Only the guys that can't get them to work sell them, and then you're buying someone else's headache.

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popeye
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posted 03-04-2004 09:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popeye   Click Here to Email popeye     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Only the guys that can't get them to work sell them, and then you're buying someone else's headache
Mark "Warp Speed" W.has been useing and setting em up for customers for years and swears by em.He's currently running one on a BB that runs 9 flat all day...and he's never had a car that consistent,93 pro gas Mustang and man he's had bunch of race cars and a few dragsters too.Gene

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kid vishus
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posted 03-04-2004 09:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kid vishus   Click Here to Email kid vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My dad has one on his car and it works fantastic. Our buddy also runs a dual toilet on a bbc (was in a 63 'Vette Pro Mod style car) and has no problems with his. And actually, he bought Speer's dragster this past winter and is putting his motor in it. KK's brother has one on his car. His is a strange one. It works real well also.

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kid vishus
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posted 03-04-2004 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kid vishus   Click Here to Email kid vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I should add, I would love to put a 'toilet' on my car, but I just can't afford it right now. I probably could afford it if I sold my alchy carb and fuel pump, but it works so well I am afraid to get rid of it.

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popeye
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posted 03-04-2004 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popeye   Click Here to Email popeye     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by popeye:
Only the guys that can't get them to work sell them, and then you're buying someone else's headache
Mark "Warp Speed" W.has been useing and setting em up for customers for years and swears by em.He's currently running one on a BB that runs 9 flat all day...and he's never had a car that consistent,93 pro gas Mustang and man he's had bunch of race cars and a few dragsters too.Gene



Even if I dont find a used injction setup right away I'll just stick with the carb & race fuel...h&ll,I need wheels and tires worse

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Strain Gang
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posted 03-04-2004 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Strain Gang   Click Here to Email Strain Gang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The company that has the intake is called Dirt Track Thunder from Ames, Iowa. About an hour from my house. That particular company Im not too crazy about myself. I bought an SFI Chrome balancer from them off of Ebay (Alex seen it)and noticed it came in a "Made in Taiwan" box. The balancer looked really good though. Until I went to install it and found it stamped 30* off. With the stock balancer on the timing mark was at zero, when I pulled the stock one off and put on the SFI one, it was at 30*. No wonder why the racecar would not start. I called Tony up (owner) and he said they had troubles with one other one and to send it back for a full refund. I got my money back and bought one from Alex like I should have done to begin with. Tony said that they had 4 others on the shelf that were the same way as the one I had. He is also co-owner of a VERY reputable Stock Car place called Midwest Motorsports also in Ames. They are a very big place and I have bought numerous things from them including engine parts from their Kansas City store. Hope this helps, Steve.

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popeye
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posted 03-04-2004 09:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popeye   Click Here to Email popeye     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kid vishus:
I should add, I would love to put a 'toilet' on my car, but I just can't afford it right now. I probably could afford it if I sold my alchy carb and fuel pump, but it works so well I am afraid to get rid of it.


Bob I know what you mean ya find something that works and just hate to part with it.Your dad seems to like his toilet

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Dave_C
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posted 03-04-2004 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave_C   Click Here to Email Dave_C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kid vishus:

Not sure where you can get a decent used injection system. The guys that buy them and have luck with them keep them. Only the guys that can't get them to work sell them, and then you're buying someone else's headache.

I'm keeping mine for sure. Love the Toilet. Works great and when dialed in I've found I only need one jet change per season. I have one for hot weather and go one size richer for cool weather. The only thing that might be better in my case would a tunnel ram with two toilets instead of one. The Victor intake was designed for a 460. It's pushed past it's limits with a 557.

A used toilet can be made to work IF you have the right parts. The biggest problem I see is people trying to use the wrong size fuel pump. Any small block or mild big block only needs a "0" pump. Hotter big blocks use the "0 1/2" pump. All the rest can be changed, nozzles, jets and pills. You might try James Monroe. He is the #1 Ron's distributor and a great guy to work with. He sometimes takes trade-ins or he can set you up right the first time with either a new system complete for $1425. Or, if you find a used system he can also set you up with the correct nozzles, pill and barrel valve setting.

James Monroe:
http://www.killerrons.com/index.html

Later,
David Cole


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popeye
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posted 03-04-2004 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popeye   Click Here to Email popeye     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Strain Gang:
The company that has the intake is called Dirt Track Thunder from Ames, Iowa. About an hour from my house. That particular company Im not too crazy about myself. I bought an SFI Chrome balancer from them off of Ebay (Alex seen it)and noticed it came in a "Made in Taiwan" box. The balancer looked really good though. Until I went to install it and found it stamped 30* off. With the stock balancer on the timing mark was at zero, when I pulled the stock one off and put on the SFI one, it was at 30*. No wonder why the racecar would not start. I called Tony up (owner) and he said they had troubles with one other one and to send it back for a full refund. I got my money back and bought one from Alex like I should have done to begin with. Tony said that they had 4 others on the shelf that were the same way as the one I had. He is also co-owner of a VERY reputable Stock Car place called Midwest Motorsports also in Ames. They are a very big place and I have bought numerous things from them including engine parts from their Kansas City store. Hope this helps, Steve.


Steve,the price looked good but until a guy gets some info about a new product ya just dont know.I am running a Victor Jr on the 351w and don't plan any intake changes heck I bought a new E. RPM first but never used it..was just curious about the new int. and the seller thanks Gene

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posted 03-04-2004 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jsracingbbf   Click Here to Email jsracingbbf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you buy a Toliet used or otherwise DEFINATELY give James Monroe a call. His number is on his web site. I also have a link to his web site on my web site.
if I hear of a used toliet I'll let you know. Some folks get rid of their toliets to upgrade to a terminator or a hat or a stack injection system. So it doesn't have to be some one else's junk, although that does Happen alot.

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popeye
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posted 03-04-2004 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popeye   Click Here to Email popeye     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dave,I'll have to call him to find out if he's got any trade-ins.A new setup would be great but not in the budget right now.
I've read quite a few posts on James Monroe on Bracket Talk and he comes highly recommended...nothing but good comments.
thanks,Gene

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posted 03-04-2004 10:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popeye   Click Here to Email popeye     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jsracingbbf:
If you buy a Toliet used or otherwise DEFINATELY give James Monroe a call. His number is on his web site. I also have a link to his web site on my web site.
if I hear of a used toliet I'll let you know. Some folks get rid of their toliets to upgrade to a terminator or a hat or a stack injection system. So it doesn't have to be some one else's junk, although that does Happen alot.
JS I've been told the toilet is simple but but can become complicated at times if ya dont start real close to the write setup A friend of mine bought a like new setup at a swap meet for $600.00.Worked great for about 3 outings then the car droped a tenth or so turns out there was a restriction in one of the lines,supply or return, that he got with it.That explained the low price the seller said he wasnt happy with it ..wounder why:rolleyesBut now it works great and what deal.thanks,Gene



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posted 03-04-2004 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rdinmv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've heared the professional products work well, just the castings are rough, just get a die grinder and some sand rolls and clean up the ports before you install it. I have heared you can get a polshed version for cheaper than the plain "original" thing. As I saw onebefore I think its a copy of the stealth....

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