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Topic: Budget 351w update
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 18703
From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 03-02-2004 06:00 PM
   
I got all the qoutes and gave a depsit today. 
Lets just say, "good isn't cheap, and cheap isn't good." 
It was alittle more then I was hoping for.So it was good thing I didn't buy another new parts until I got the finale price.
I started out hoping for a strong high power 351w for $2000.  I'm ending up with just under twice that in it.
But that includes all machine work,assembled from carb to oil pan, RPM 2.02 heads with some of Tony's highly recomended bowl and port work & clean up, JE 10-1 flat top forged pistons, ARP main studs,rod,and head bolts,E-brock timing set,flexplate, and compcams push rods/cam/lifters/rollertip rockers,oil pump, pick up and drive. The block will be 40 over and 20 under crank. Balanced,bore&hore,decked. Any more advice or opinions on price,parts ect. I've had a great time working with Tony Hewes so far. He seems real honest and understanding of all, and mean all my dumb questions.
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SCOOP
oddly obsessed with big scoops on little Mustangs 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8" 3.40 TracLoc. My Pics [This message has been edited by Fastymz (edited 03-02-2004).]
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Moneymaker
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From: Lyons, IL, USA
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posted 03-02-2004 06:08 PM
"Good is not cheap and cheap is not good."
Now where have I heard that before?
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Fastymz
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From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
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posted 03-02-2004 06:13 PM
Alex many thanks  Tony also said I made a great choice on the cam.
I told him who it was from and who beat me over the head to try it. ------------------
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Fastymz
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From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
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posted 03-02-2004 06:19 PM
Any one want to guess what kind of power the motor will make ?I was hoping for 250-280 at the wheels, but mostly hoping to see the 12's in Sac and low 13's in Fallon ? ------------------
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Dubz
Gearhead Posts: 1718
From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 03-02-2004 06:22 PM
Sounds cool
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Moneymaker
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From: Lyons, IL, USA
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posted 03-02-2004 06:27 PM
I'd say over 400 at the flywheel. ------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,'03,& '04
First SS/MA in the TENS!
IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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V8 Thumper
Gearhead Posts: 4377
From: Arizona
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 03-02-2004 07:18 PM
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Originally posted by Fastymz:
I'm ending up with just under twice that in it.
That still isn't bad ------------------
1965 GT coupe, 333ci aluminum headed/solid cammed stroker, four speed, 3.70:1 9" All Blue Oval, no blue bottle
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Fastymz
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From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
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posted 03-03-2004 01:12 AM
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Originally posted by V8 Thumper:
That still isn't bad
It's just more then I hoped it would cost. But then again it seems like everything is to me.
I do feel like I'm getting a strong short block and some great heads which is more then I planned for with the $2000-$2500 motor. I could have saved alittle money on the extra head work and the complete assembly. But I'm already hundreds over budget so I might as well spend just alittle more here and there.
Mr.Visa will be happy to take alittle more from too.
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Fastymz
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From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
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posted 03-03-2004 01:15 AM
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Originally posted by Moneymaker:
I'd say over 400 at the flywheel.
Awesome, anything close to 400hp would be great.
Or were you just pulling my leg ??? 400 would be about $9.00 per HP it seems a lot cheaper that way.
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Skeeter
Gearhead Posts: 152
From: California
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 03-03-2004 01:17 AM
My old 351w with ported stock heads dynoed at 330 hp at the wheels but im not sure how accurate that is??? Jason
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Dubz
Gearhead Posts: 1718
From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 03-03-2004 03:06 AM
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Originally posted by Skeeter:
My old 351w with ported stock heads dynoed at 330 hp at the wheels but im not sure how accurate that is??? Jason
Wow Skeeter, what was your setup?
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Moneymaker
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From: Lyons, IL, USA
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posted 03-03-2004 09:29 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Fastymz:
Awesome, anything close to 400hp would be great.
Or were you just pulling my leg ???400 would be about $9.00 per HP it seems a lot cheaper that way.
The estimation is correct. ------------------
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MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,'03,& '04
First SS/MA in the TENS!
IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
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grandestang
Gearhead Posts: 375
From: Lake Bluff, Illinois USA
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 03-03-2004 09:46 AM
Scoop what cam did you end up deciding on?
270S?If so your engine plan would be nearly identical to mine Paul ------------------
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Fastymz
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From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
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posted 03-03-2004 11:20 AM
Paul no I'm going with the 270H cam so it should be close. What kinda of power does your 351w make ?------------------
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grandestang
Gearhead Posts: 375
From: Lake Bluff, Illinois USA
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 03-03-2004 11:56 AM
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Originally posted by Fastymz:
Paul no I'm going with the 270H cam so it should be close. What kinda of power does your 351w make ?
I meant that our engine "plans" were pretty much the same. As of right now I'm just stockpiling parts, already bought the 270S, performer RPM intake, and headers. I am still trying to decide on the heads. The engine will be done by very early summer, as I'm in college now and don't have access to my car to work on it. It will be an interesting comparison when our cars our done, to see what kind of power they both make. I'm hoping for at least 300hp at the wheels, and I think that your combo will definitely give you at least that. Keep us posted on your progress! Paul ------------------
1970 Grande
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Fastymz
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From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
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posted 03-03-2004 01:38 PM
I'll let you know,it'll be kinda fun to see to motors built almost the same but with the 270s and one with the 270h cam. Also the guy thats doing alittle head work to my RPM's said they flow great with some clean up on the intake and exhaust sides, port match them to the intake and alittle smoothing around the valves.
I'd love to have 300hp at the wheels. ------------------
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