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Rustang
Gearhead Posts: 576
From: Clarion PA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 02-15-2004 09:54 AM
   
Lookin' forward to a season of the Blue Oval Boys kickin' a$$ and takin names!  Hope they clean house today, but not so bad that the other guys start whining  ------------------
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'67 Stang, 351W -11.18@118
'69 351C Torino-14.90@100
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kid vishus
Gearhead Posts: 5248
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Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 02-15-2004 10:04 AM
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Originally posted by Rustang:
Hope they clean house today, but not so bad that the other guys start whining ...
If more than one Ford finishes in the top 5 they will whine regardless if they are the only 2 Fords in the top 10. I'm sure if more than one Yates/Roush car does well the GM teams will all bit*h about those 2 teams joining forces for thier engine program.
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Moneymaker
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posted 02-15-2004 11:32 AM
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Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
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NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,'03,& '04
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IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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kid vishus
Gearhead Posts: 5248
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posted 02-15-2004 01:21 PM
I hope they don't do this long drawn out "half time show" style crap before every race. 
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TomP
Gearhead Posts: 5025
From: Delta BC Canada
Registered: Dec 99
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posted 02-15-2004 01:30 PM
I thought the race would be already 75 laps old by this time... oh well... at least i haven't missed any.I used to think "Dubya" was a boob... in the interview with him on pit row he comes across as a regular guy and seems genuinely enthused to be there... that's cool.
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Moneymaker
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From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 02-15-2004 02:05 PM
He's still a boob. Just a better coached boob these days. 
Took advantage of great photo opps (very smart) with Joe Gibbs. Those pics will be on the front sports page of every news media available tomorrow. Great stratagy when you approval rating is in the tank. OK, enough politics, back to racing! ------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,'03,& '04
First SS/MA in the TENS!
IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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kid vishus
Gearhead Posts: 5248
From: middle of NC
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 02-15-2004 02:18 PM
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Originally posted by kid vishus:
..if more than one Yates/Roush car does well ...
At this rate, they might be lucky if more than one of them is still running at the end. 
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lawless
Gearhead Posts: 308
From: Richmond, VA
Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 02-15-2004 02:19 PM
2nd Roush motor just blew up... and Biffle's is reportedly running at 250 degrees... It ain't looking too promising
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Moneymaker
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From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 02-15-2004 02:25 PM
Ouch! ------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,'03,& '04
First SS/MA in the TENS!
IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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lawless
Gearhead Posts: 308
From: Richmond, VA
Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 02-15-2004 03:17 PM
looks like the Fords made it through the Big One... 
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kid vishus
Gearhead Posts: 5248
From: middle of NC
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 02-15-2004 03:23 PM
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Originally posted by lawless:
looks like the Fords made it through the Big One...
Thankfully.
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Kellxr7
Gearhead Posts: 315
From: Canada
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted 02-15-2004 05:08 PM
Booooooo Dale. Better luck next time Matt Kenseth my man! ok fine, congrats Dale. Heheh that chevy was so gutless he had to do the Donuts on the grass, didnt have the power to spin on the pave. (no Im not bitter hehe)[This message has been edited by Kellxr7 (edited 02-15-2004).]
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Moneymaker
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From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 02-15-2004 05:12 PM
Where was Biffle's spotter?
Why didn't somebody slow that kid down entering pit road? ------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,'03,& '04
First SS/MA in the TENS!
IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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Buster
Gearhead Posts: 1238
From: Orlando
Registered: May 2002
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posted 02-15-2004 05:39 PM
Why didn't Elliott race today?
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rustang@home
Journeyman Posts: 23
From: Clarion, PA
Registered: Jan 2004
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posted 02-15-2004 06:00 PM
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V8 Thumper
Gearhead Posts: 4044
From: Orange, Ca. United States of America
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posted 02-15-2004 06:14 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Buster:
Why didn't Elliott race today?
Good question. He's 'semi-retired' and plans to run a few races this year. Not sure which ones though  Kind of like DW; I guess he talked his wife into letting him run a few short-track Truck races... ...in a Toyota  ------------------
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rustang@home
Journeyman Posts: 23
From: Clarion, PA
Registered: Jan 2004
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posted 02-15-2004 09:45 PM
Toyota...Dodge...what's the difference
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SG236
Gearhead Posts: 403
From: Jasper, TN, USA
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 02-16-2004 01:00 PM
I'll take W anyday over those Jackasses the Dems are running. At lease W has a concience!
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 21725
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 02-16-2004 02:01 PM
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Originally posted by SG236:
I'll take W anyday over those Jackasses the Dems are running. At lease W has a concience!
Dem, Rep, I don't really care one way or another. GW has to go, PERIOD!
See if you still feel the same way when you are paying $3.00 a gallon for gas as GW padding his retirement fund.
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Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,'03,& '04
First SS/MA in the TENS!
IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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Rustang
Gearhead Posts: 576
From: Clarion PA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 02-16-2004 02:03 PM
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Originally posted by SG236:
I'll take W anyday over those Jackasses the Dems are running. At lease W has a concience!
If one of those dems visited the track they'd be mortified at the hydrocarbon emissions.
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cracing
Gearhead Posts: 159
From: Saltillo Miss. USA
Registered: Jan 2002
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posted 02-16-2004 03:02 PM
Some ways WWF uh, WWE uh, NASCRAP rigs, uh determines race outcome, mysterious loose lugnuts,catch can stuck on car, developing vibrations that go away, think i've got a tire going down thats not,speeding on pit road, passing ****head jr, or bumping same. Play by their "RULES" or dont play. How do you think ****head sr. got away with all the wrecking he did & no one else could, how do you explain a car coming from last place to the front in a few laps, then cant pass the top five, please! He caught them awfully quick not to be able to get around. They want as they call it "Parity" & do things to make it happen.
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bifs66
Gearhead Posts: 195
From: Maryland
Registered: Apr 2000
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posted 02-16-2004 04:27 PM
Wasn't it a Dem that sponsored a Craftsmen truck team last year? I have to agree with Alex on GWB...but for numerous additional reasons. GWB is probably a great guy to have a beer with; but the people he gets his instructions from are too far out there for this old traditional conservative. As far as Sunday was concerned, it was a mutual admiration society. GWB got tremendous pre-campaign exposure, and NASCAR got on every news channel in the land. You couldn't help but see the "difference" between wholesome NASCAR and the corrupt NFL being played to the hilt. I just felt a little manupulated. As far as the race was concerned, it looked like Kurt Busch put on the best Ford performance....it was a shame that he was a lap down through no fault of his own. I was thinking that the Ford teams may want to study the under belly of Waltrip's car for some hidden DEI secrets that give them their speed. Maybe things will be better next week for the Ford teams. ------------------
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66 Fastback restomod (12.8 @ 112mph)
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Moneymaker
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posted 02-16-2004 04:39 PM
I've seen others "slide" into the pits that were not penalized. Bang into cars, crew members, tires, jacks and what have you.NASCAR as always, is trying to keep the playing field level in their own irreverable way. ------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,'03,& '04
First SS/MA in the TENS!
IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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Perk 351C
Journeyman Posts: 60
From: Cape Neddick Me USA
Registered: Sep 2003
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posted 02-16-2004 06:57 PM
I agree with Cracing.I have been to over 20 Daytona 500's and many other Nascar races,where old man Earnhardt would run other drivers of the track,wrecking them time after time,with no penilty.Now the son has taken over as Nascar's no 1 boy.He can do no wrong,Nascar will see to that,and if he dose, it will be swept under the rug.Ford took a real hit when they lost Roger Penski team,Newman and Wallace to Dodge.There are 20 or so Chevy's, 15 or so Dodges,and 8 or so fords,that is not a level playing field!The kid is going to win the championship,Nascar will see to that,one way or another.Perk a disgruntel Nascar fan
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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 02-16-2004 07:08 PM
With toyotas in the truck series and soon to be in Nextel, I don't even care anymore. R.I.P. nascar.------------------
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'70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open
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streetstang67
Gearhead Posts: 396
From: SC, USA
Registered: Nov 2002
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posted 02-16-2004 07:27 PM
Is anybody else as mad as I am that toyota is joining the last real american event..?
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Moneymaker
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posted 02-16-2004 07:59 PM
I guess we can thank NHRA for allowing Toyota into funny car two years ago.
They had dreams of billions of yen in their bacnk accounts and new Lexus' support vehicles I guess. ------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,'03,& '04
First SS/MA in the TENS!
IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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Perk 351C
Journeyman Posts: 60
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posted 02-16-2004 08:39 PM
The Toyota thing in Nascar is all Money!and that's what Nascar is all about,Money! Darrel Waltrip,who I never cared for,has sold out to the Jap's for $$$$$$$ Just wait,when they get in to Nextel cup,they will buy up teams left and right,then switch them to Toyota.I hope Roush,Yates, and the Wood bros never sell out,that's about all we have left!.Perk
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V8 Thumper
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posted 02-16-2004 09:43 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
I guess we can thank NHRA for allowing Toyota into funny car two years ago.
Yea, that really pissed me off
Where'd they go?
They're no longer involved, are they? ------------------
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Ryan Wilke
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posted 02-17-2004 09:17 AM
I think Nextel are on their way to messing up what was a good thing because they see nothing but $$$ signs in their eyes....they have restricted sponsorships (you didn't see any new wireless company or other NEXTEL BUSINESS COMPETETOR supporting a car Sunday, did ya?) from the field and thus there is some concern if they'll have enough cars to fill the field this weekend at the Rock.... I think Nextel may be on their way to turning NASCAR into another IRL or CART series.....where only mega-$$$ and/or foreign-named teams & drivers that fit their mold will be allowed to play....and if that happens, it will cause them to loose most of their fan base, why? Because I believe the current blue-collar supporters/fans base won't support a car or driver that they can't pronounce their name or know what the sponsor makes/provides.... As Steve LaR sadly mentioned, "R.I.P., NASCAR." So will I attend another NASCAR race at MIS this year? Probably not. I think I'm going to re-focus my concentration & limited time/$$ to support more of my local dragracing events and as my highlight, I'll plan to travel to Indy to participate in the festivities of the 50th anniversary of the US Nationals on Labor Day weekend! Just my 2 cents,,,,
Ryan ------------------
'69 Mach I; 306"; 4-spd; drag racer.
'65 F100 Short box; 390"; 4-spd; Tow Truck.
'85 GT Convert.; last carb'd 5.0L; 5-spd; street cruiser.
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TomP
Gearhead Posts: 5025
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Registered: Dec 99
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posted 02-17-2004 12:35 PM
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Originally posted by Moneymaker:
See if you still feel the same way when you are paying $3.00 a gallon for gas as GW padding his retirement fund.
Three bucks a gallon? They lowering the price, cool! 8) edit: Oops i forget you folks are in the States!
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FiveOFastback
Journeyman Posts: 46
From: Bethlehem, PA, USA
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posted 02-17-2004 02:24 PM
Roush and Yates will not sell out to Chevy, Dodge or Toyota. Wood Bro's might, but the Cat in the Hat has too much tied up in Ford. Along with Yates, everything they do is geared towards FORD products, heads, intakes, and even the Roush Mustangs. So you will not see them make the change. As for NASCAR, toyota should stay in their own sport in their own country, and this new point system in NASCAR is stupid. What is keeping the teams out of the top 10 (at the end of the season) from just packing it up and going home?!
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FiveOFastback
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posted 02-17-2004 02:26 PM
PS- Toyota makes me cringe more than chevy or dodge and thats saying something.[This message has been edited by FiveOFastback (edited 02-17-2004).]
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Ryan Wilke
Gearhead Posts: 1700
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posted 02-17-2004 04:13 PM
quote:
Originally posted by FiveOFastback:
As for NASCAR, toyota should stay in their own sport in their own country,,,,,
I don't know what "...their own sport..." is, but as far as "...their own country..", I've got to say: Hold on there, young man, you may want to blame your geography instructor for not doing a better job of teaching you! Consider that Toyota has: - Not 1, but 5 manufacturing plants in the USA, nine different models including the Tundra truck. Their 1st manufacturing plant opened here 18 years ago (1986). Today's vehicles are assembled with 75% USA-made parts. - Not 1, but 6 parts plants in the USA.
- they employ 25,000 fellow Americans in these plants. In '02, they sold 1.2 million vehicles here. In '03, they estimated 1.5 million vehicle sales. So -- I'd say we Americans must like making & buying these American-made Toyota products!
That all being said, I say: BRING 'EM ON!
WE CAN ALL RACE ON THE SAME TRACK AND MAY THE BEST MACHINE / DRIVER WIN! Ryan [This message has been edited by Ryan Wilke (edited 02-17-2004).]
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Moneymaker
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posted 02-17-2004 04:25 PM
You know, of all the cars/trucks I have owned, a Toyomota was never one of them. ------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,'03,& '04
First SS/MA in the TENS!
IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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JCQuinn@work
Gearhead Posts: 542
From: Lakewood, CO, USA
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posted 02-17-2004 04:39 PM
I owned a Datsun (Nissan) once. When winter hit and I happened to turn on the wipers while they were still frozen to the windshield. a small plastic gear in the wiping mechanism stripped all the teeth off. Well, I thought, this is inconvenient but how much can a little plastic gear cost? They would not sell the plastic gear except as part of a whole new wiper assembly and it cost $150.00. That was the end of my foray into Japanese engineering.John
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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 02-17-2004 04:51 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Ryan Wilke:
I don't know what "...their own sport..." is, but as far as "...their own country..", I've got to say: Hold on there, young man, you may want to blame your geography instructor for not doing a better job of teaching you! Consider that Toyota has: - Not 1, but 5 manufacturing plants in the USA, nine different models including the Tundra truck. Their 1st manufacturing plant opened here 18 years ago (1986). Today's vehicles are assembled with 75% USA-made parts. - Not 1, but 6 parts plants in the USA.
- they employ 25,000 fellow Americans in these plants. In '02, they sold 1.2 million vehicles here. In '03, they estimated 1.5 million vehicle sales. So -- I'd say we Americans must like making & buying these American-made Toyota products!
That all being said, I say: BRING 'EM ON!
WE CAN ALL RACE ON THE SAME TRACK AND MAY THE BEST MACHINE / DRIVER WIN! Ryan [This message has been edited by Ryan Wilke (edited 02-17-2004).]
You might find this interesting:
http://www.howtobuyamerican.com/b-db-autos.shtml The bottom line is the profits from Toyota production goes to strengthen Toyota and the Japanese auto industry.
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'70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open
'72 Mustang Sprint Hardtop 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Loc
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streetstang67
Gearhead Posts: 396
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posted 02-17-2004 05:59 PM
quote:
Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:
You might find this interesting:
http://www.howtobuyamerican.com/b-db-autos.shtmlThe bottom line is the profits from Toyota production goes to strengthen Toyota and the Japanese auto industry.
Good info...should be encouragement for people to get real (american) cars.
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jkilroy
Gearhead Posts: 1797
From: Vicksburg, MS
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posted 02-17-2004 06:32 PM
Yes, NASCAR sucks wind. No, I didn't even bother to turn on the TV to be bored by it. As far as Toy's being made in the US, yes, they are made in the US, but where exactly do you think the PROFITS from those cars goes? If you guessed a small, overpopulated country in the north pacific ocean, very near the west coast of what once was Russia, you would be correct. That, my friend, is called a trade deficit. (Of which we have many large ones) We give them more money than they give us. If we keep doing this at the rate that we are, they will have all the money and we will not have ****. We need to build products here, ship them elsewhere and bring back the MONEY. Which is exactly how this country got so rich in the first place. ------------------
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steve'66
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posted 02-17-2004 06:38 PM
quote:
Originally posted by jkilroy:
We need to build products here, ship them elsewhere and bring back the MONEY. Which is exactly how this country got so rich in the first place.
Yep, and this trade "partner" won't even buy rice from us. SteveW
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CHIPSBAD67
Gearhead Posts: 276
From: LOU,KY;USA
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posted 02-17-2004 08:21 PM
gwb is a good president, period. served 6 of my 8 in the marines under clinton and 99% of us would rather moon him than salute him. dont agree with all of his policies, but on international policy and national defense he's dead on. where's this economy on the ropes the dems keep hammering on? anyway, nascar is goofy. want to run a real stock car, ok. make them all front wheel drive. if we have to suffer the selection from detroit, so should they. toyotas in nascar is fine, goes along with gay weddings.------------------
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Ryan Wilke
Gearhead Posts: 1700
From: Stanton, Michigan 49707
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posted 02-19-2004 11:08 AM
quote:
Originally posted by jkilroy:
....they are made in the US, but where exactly do you think the PROFITS from those cars goes? If you guessed a small, overpopulated country in the north pacific ocean, very near the west coast of what once was Russia, you would be correct. That, my friend, is called a trade deficit. (Of which we have many large ones) We give them more money than they give us. If we keep doing this at the rate that we are, they will have all the money and we will not have ****.We need to build products here, ship them elsewhere and bring back the MONEY. Which is exactly how this country got so rich in the first place.
I know this thread has strayed away from being a "Ford Racing" topic and should probably be in "Sam's Place" by now -- HOWEVER, before I let it go, I've got to to respond to Jay's comments:
Yep, their PROFITS go back to their mothership country, Japan. However, consider that this is the same practice that goes on with the PROFITS from all the US-based companies (from EXXON, to GE, to Ford, GM, etc.) that all have plants in Europe, China, Japan, etc. All those profits come back to the USA. The problem lies with our Government leaders that make these "fair trade" deals regarding taxes, tariffs, etc. that aren't equal between other countries and the USA, and we end up with the trade deficits that you mentioned, and excessive import restrictions on our goods to be sold overseas, as SteveW mentioned. This isn't an issue of some foriegn-based manufacturing company plotting & scheming against the USA, rather it's our own politicians making deals & allowing these trade practices to go on. To change this, we need to get a handle on the way our politicians "do business" and insist they change it. Ryan
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