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Dad Vishus
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posted 02-13-2004 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dad Vishus   Click Here to Email Dad Vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I took the intake off my motor last Fall I noticed an intake runner that was all black in the head. The stuff is like thick tar and has no apparent smell.

I'm assuming this is oil being sucked into the intake at the gasket surface. The intake is a little beat up on that gasket surface. It is the back hole on one side, BTW.

I think I'll try putting extra silicone around that port. My question is, is one type of silicone better for resisting alchohol than the others?

I've been advised to use black, but I'm still not sure.

Thanks in advance.

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clevelandstyle
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posted 02-13-2004 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for clevelandstyle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't run alky, but I like the ultra black Permatex. I don't even use intake gaskets anymore. Just a thin layer of black and let it setup.

I resently had a seminar put on by a Loctite rep. He showed some examples of some silicons that eat aluminum. Specifically, the silicon sealers that has the strong, vinigary smell. Mostly the blue, clear and some black silicons do it. Have you ever seen an intake mounting flange or aluminum water pump that is pitted or corroded? The silicon is what causes most of this. That's when I switched to the Ultra Black. It doesn't corrode aluminum.

I can't really help on the alky issue.

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Moneymaker
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posted 02-13-2004 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ultra black or grey. Both work equaly well.
Never, never, blue on anything but cast iron.

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cpmaverick
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posted 02-14-2004 12:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpmaverick   Click Here to Email cpmaverick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Check out the Ford silicone you get in the caulk-type tube. It's made specificly for the Powerstrokes, but its some awesome stuff.

It's expensive, but you get a lot of it. If you are doing a whole intake might be worth it.

What else would you expect from the Blue Oval?

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Dubz
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posted 02-14-2004 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dubz   Click Here to Email Dubz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
is all the permatex stuff allright on aluminum?

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Buster
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posted 02-14-2004 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Buster   Click Here to Email Buster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ultra black or grey. Both work equaly well.

Never, never, blue on anything. =)

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Fastymz
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posted 02-14-2004 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So are you guys saying, "Ultra black or grey. Both work equaly well.
Never, never, blue on anything."
But the blue is more pretty

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Buster
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posted 02-14-2004 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Buster   Click Here to Email Buster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I only use Black.

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kid vishus
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posted 02-14-2004 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kid vishus   Click Here to Email kid vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I use copper or red on everything.

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Fastymz
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posted 02-14-2004 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just use the black GM sealant that my brother inlaw gets from the dealership he works at.Seems like good stuff, and it's free to me.

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SCOOP

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Dad Vishus
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posted 02-14-2004 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dad Vishus   Click Here to Email Dad Vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now that I think about it, I stuck the gaskets down with black but didn't put any on the top of the gaskets. I don't usually, but I will this time.

I'm waiting for one more opinion, but several have said Ultra Black, and I have some, so that's probably what I'll try.

Thanks

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63 Falcon 377 Cleveland stroker Flying Toilet alchohol injection. 6.19 @ 110 MPH 1/8 mile
2002 Ranger FX4 daily driver
2000 F350 PSD Crew cab dually - Like commuting in a B52!!
98 US Cargo Phantom II 28'

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