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Topic: blue plate clutches
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jet-fixer66
Journeyman Posts: 3
From: texas
Registered: Feb 2004
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posted 02-08-2004 10:45 PM
   
I have a 70 and later c4 which is a better clutch plate? alto red eagle or raybestos blue plate. Plan on running a 10" 3000 stall with 150 shot of nitrous any suggestions?
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Moneymaker
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From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 02-08-2004 10:49 PM
Welcome to M&M  .
Alto red with Cholee (sp?) steels that have been sand blasted. The blue glazes very easily at high RPM.------------------
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Capri
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From: Lyons, ILL, USA M&M member #007... the secret agent member
Registered: May 99
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posted 02-08-2004 11:10 PM
Colene I think is the correct name of the steel's. They are also available through Alto.Tony
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clevelandstyle
Gearhead Posts: 1341
From: central Indiana
Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 02-09-2004 12:31 PM
Actually the Kolene is spelled with a "k". Not that I want to correct anyone.
I think the reason Alex said to blast the steels is because the coating can flake off. Not good. It's best to just take it off in the beginning.
As for the Alto vs. Blue, I have run Blues with no trouble, but my new trans has Altos in it. I will be trying them out in a few weeks. By the end of the season I will know how they hold up.
As a general concenses, the Altos seem to have a better reputation.------------------
Ben
Grabber Green '70 Mach I 351C 4V
Robbin Egg Blue '79 Fairmont 351C 4V
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Moneymaker
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From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 02-09-2004 12:35 PM
IN my RPM range, I have found the blues to glaze after 10-15 passes Ben.
We are using a red Alto.
Thanks for correcting the spelling. I forgot.
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Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
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First SS/MA in the TENS!
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Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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clevelandstyle
Gearhead Posts: 1341
From: central Indiana
Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 02-09-2004 12:54 PM
I have heard that about the Blues before, but I have not experienced it myself.------------------
Ben
Grabber Green '70 Mach I 351C 4V
Robbin Egg Blue '79 Fairmont 351C 4V
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Buster
Gearhead Posts: 1672
From: Hurricane alley
Registered: May 2002
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posted 02-09-2004 06:06 PM
quote:
Originally posted by clevelandstyle:
Actually the Kolene is spelled with a "k". Not that I want to correct anyone.
It's spelled queolene here in Florida 
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 27880
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 02-10-2004 09:36 AM
LOL ------------------
Alex Denysenko
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MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,'03,& '04
First SS/MA in the TENS!
IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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jet-fixer66
Journeyman Posts: 3
From: texas
Registered: Feb 2004
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posted 02-10-2004 09:30 PM
Thanks for all your answers to my questions. Sandblasted like you said, will keep you updated. Sure will be nice to hit a solid 2nd gear. Gotta love this racing thing!!!!!!!!!!
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clevelandstyle
Gearhead Posts: 1341
From: central Indiana
Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 02-10-2004 09:48 PM
Welcome to the site jet-fixer66.
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Ben
Grabber Green '70 Mach I 351C 4V
Robbin Egg Blue '79 Fairmont 351C 4V
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gregaust
Journeyman Posts: 28
From: australia
Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 02-11-2004 05:22 AM
I would be careful with the sandblasting as it would leave the steel too rough..
Here's how one of the guys on F/M does his. The coating on the Kolene steels I was referring to if anyone else was wondering is actually some kind of a paint. I believe its applied for cosmetic reasons. You wont actually harm the Kolene coating. Its very easy to remove, it can even be done with a wire brush. Some guys bead blast them but that only aggravates the existing problem of a rough surface finish with these Kolene style steels. I would recommend spinning them in a lathe and removing it with emery paper. This will also help smooth them out a bit and get the grain going in the right direction. When you remove the black paint or sorry "Black Oxide Coating" you can see they look like they go through a time saver with the grain running across them. Ouch. The clutches are used for the 2-3 shift where the front band is the 1-2 shift.
Hope that helps.
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 27880
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 02-11-2004 09:16 AM
quote:
Originally posted by gregaust:
[B]I would be careful with the sandblasting as it would leave the steel too rough..
B]
That's the idea. ------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,'03,& '04
First SS/MA in the TENS!
IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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jet-fixer66
Journeyman Posts: 3
From: texas
Registered: Feb 2004
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posted 02-14-2004 04:05 PM
I went ahead and bought the bands with the kevlar coating I've been told these have a lot more holding power.
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