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Kyle
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posted 02-05-2004 02:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kyle   Click Here to Email Kyle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have two questions.

1. I noticed that on regular RPM intakes, the dividing plenum is all the way to the carb pad, but on RPM Air-Gap manifolds, there is a notch cut out in that divider, which I assume is to balance the sides at higher RPM's. Whats the deal? I thought the Air-Gap was just an RPM with the stuff cut out underneath.

2. A reccomendation for an intake; 5.0L long-block, XE276HR cam (224/230, rated at 2200-6200), 650 D/P carb, drag racing only; do I want a dual plane (Performer RPM or Stealth) or single (Torker or X-CELerator)? I have a Vic. Jr, but I think thats too much. I'm going to a swap meet Sat. and will be looking for something.

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Ryan Wilke
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posted 02-05-2004 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ryan Wilke   Click Here to Email Ryan Wilke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kyle:
I have two questions.

1. I noticed that on regular RPM intakes, the dividing plenum is all the way to the carb pad, but on RPM Air-Gap manifolds, there is a notch cut out in that divider, which I assume is to balance the sides at higher RPM's. Whats the deal? I thought the Air-Gap was just an RPM with the stuff cut out underneath.

2. A reccomendation for an intake; 5.0L long-block, XE276HR cam (224/230, rated at 2200-6200), 650 D/P carb, drag racing only; do I want a dual plane (Performer RPM or Stealth) or single (Torker or X-CELerator)? I have a Vic. Jr, but I think thats too much. I'm going to a swap meet Sat. and will be looking for something.


Kyle,
I'm sure you & most of the rest here have more experience with this than me, but - I'll give you my thought to your questions:

#1) I believe you're correct that the divider is cut down a bit to help balance out the runner charges at higher rpms and also to eliminate the problem that some carbs with large secondary butterflys may hit on the divider.

#2) Of your choices, I'm sure most folks would say go with the RPM. That would also be my first choice. However, if you already have one or can borrow one, I'd also try the Stealth as some folks really like them. Because your cam quits at 6200rpms, I wouldn't bother with any single plane manifold.

JMO,
Ryan

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Moneymaker
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posted 02-05-2004 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Keep your Vic Jr and use it with a 4 hole one inch spacer. Plan ahead. I am sure you are going to eventually upgrade the heads.
If I was going to install from scratch,and keep the stock E7TE heads forever, then I would use a Air Gap.

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FiveOFastback
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posted 02-05-2004 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FiveOFastback   Click Here to Email FiveOFastback     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Go with the RPM Air Gap, better low end torque over the Victor or Stealth, unless you have huge CC heads to have the need for a single plane, I think you would be more satisfied with a dual plane. Just my 2cents

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68DARKHORSE
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posted 02-06-2004 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68DARKHORSE   Click Here to Email 68DARKHORSE     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Air Gap is taller than the RPM. It's like a cross between the RPM and the Jr.

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kid vishus
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posted 02-06-2004 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kid vishus   Click Here to Email kid vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would keep the Vc Jr intake. KK's motor is only shifted at 6000 rpm and it works great with the Vic Jr and a 1" 4 hole spacer. I just think you will be going backwards if you change intakes.

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steve'66
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posted 02-06-2004 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I vote for the Vic Jr too.
Later you can get the matching VicJr heads and kick some but.

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Kyle
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posted 02-09-2004 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kyle   Click Here to Email Kyle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Steve- I already have the matching Vic. Jr heads. I just can't afford the matching compression ratio, matching camshaft, or matching JPT converter right now. Some day, though. (I wanna build one like yours!)

So the Vic Jr will be ok? I would think it would really kill the low end. The cam doesn't seem too big to me (i.e. it makes power at lower RPMs). Since the car is a footbrake car, I thought the dual plane would be a better choice. But I guess all it would cost me is an intake gasket and a couple hours to find out, huh? Why only a 1" 4-hole, not a 2"? I found a set of GT-40s cheap this weekend, so they will be going on the engine.

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Kyle Laramore

'63 Fairlane: Under Re-construction

'66 Mustang Coupe: 289, Offy intake, Crane Blazer hyd. camshaft, Autolite 4100 carb, Headman long tube headers, 3spd tranny, 8" rear, 3.80 gears

'70 Mach 1: 351C-2V, Weiand intake, 750 holley, Flowtech long-tube headers, MSD ignition, C6 trans, CJ converter, 9" track-loc rear, 3.50 gears, Flowmaster 2.5" mandrel exhaust w/ 3-chamber mufflers

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