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Topic: 21-4N,XH-428 or MV-522 what valve is best?
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70coupe
Gearhead Posts: 483
From: Toronto,Ontario,Canada
Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 02-01-2004 07:12 PM
  
Hi,just curious as to what material is the strongest for a racing valve. It seems each manufacturer doesn't want the consumer to know what there getting in terms of strength or they would have a system that allows you to compare apples to apples. Does anyone know how to break down the above numbers?
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351c 4v clsd heads
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Moneymaker
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From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 02-02-2004 03:46 PM
It would all depend on what you plan on doing. 
The different materials relate to temp, weight, RPM, and duration conditions.It is always best to set goals, a budget, then talk to a proffesional about your needs.
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70coupe
Gearhead Posts: 483
From: Toronto,Ontario,Canada
Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 02-02-2004 08:05 PM
Its for a cleveland that spins up to 7000rpm.
I think I'm convinced that for the money Ferrea 6000's are a good choice. I always see valves on Ebay claiming they're severe duty for around $110-$130US and the price just seems too good. You know the saying!
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kid vishus
Gearhead Posts: 6405
From: middle of NC
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 02-02-2004 08:29 PM
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Originally posted by 70coupe:
I think I'm convinced that for the money Ferrea 6000's are a good choice.
I like them and have run them without any problems. And that is in a solid roller application shifting at 7500 rpm.
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clevelandstyle
Gearhead Posts: 1189
From: Connersville, IN
Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 02-02-2004 09:51 PM
I run the Ferrea valves too. Never had a problem with them, but I have a relatively mild cam compaired to Kid.------------------
Ben
Grabber Green '70 Mach I 351C 4V
Robbin Egg Blue '79 Fairmont 351C 4V
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 26813
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 02-03-2004 12:37 PM
Good product.------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
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Daniel Jones
Gearhead Posts: 873
From: St. Louis, MO
Registered: Aug 99
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posted 02-03-2004 05:02 PM
Kid,I thought you told me you ran the Competition Plus valves?
If I recall correctly, you mentioned breaking a less expensive
valve. Ferrea has the 5000 Series High Performance valves, the
6000 Series Competition valves, and the 1000 Series Competition
Plus valves, along with a number of specialty valves. The 5000
series are inexpensive street performance valves and can be had
for around $160 a set. The 6000 series are maybe $90 more a set.
Ferrea claims they are good for roller cams. The 1000 Series are
severe duty competion valves and probably another $90 more expensive
than the 6000 Series. Dan Jones
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 26813
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 02-03-2004 05:31 PM
KV has (as I) several sets of heads and a couple of motors in various stages of completion.
I seem to recal him saying that he has run both products Dan.
Ferrea is not my own "top" choice, but they do make a great product for the application in this thread.
You really can't go wrong with Ferrea, Manley, Del-West, or CV products as long as you choose the right product for the job required.
As most of you know, I use the Victory one piece product in my SS 289 engines, but those are custom valves for severe duty in a custom application.------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
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kid vishus
Gearhead Posts: 6405
From: middle of NC
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 02-03-2004 06:31 PM
I have ran the 6000 series and the 5000 series Ferrea valves. All I have ran in my last several builds have been Ferrea's. They used to have a series between the 6000's and the 1000 series. I ran them till they stopped making them. The last couple of sets I ran were the 6000's. I did break one 5000 series, but we decided afterwords that they weren't designed for solid roller cams.
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Fordwiser
Gearhead Posts: 429
From: Metamora, Illinois
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 02-03-2004 06:54 PM
I also run the Ferrea 6000 series valves in my roller cam Cleveland. My buddy who helps me with my heads, builds a lot of motors at all different levels and Ferrea is all he uses, says they're just as good if not better then the severe duty Manleys plus they cost less!Roger
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kid vishus
Gearhead Posts: 6405
From: middle of NC
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 02-03-2004 07:07 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Fordwiser:
...and Ferrea is all he uses, says they're just as good if not better then the severe duty Manleys plus they cost less!Roger
And they weigh less than Manleys and I was told by a friend with a flowbench they flow a touch better too.
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Mpcoluv
Gearhead Posts: 1333
From: Charlotte NC usa
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 02-03-2004 10:18 PM
To be honest, I have never heard a bad word about Ferrea. Anyone know how expensive the hollow stem valves are?
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Daniel Jones
Gearhead Posts: 873
From: St. Louis, MO
Registered: Aug 99
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posted 02-04-2004 11:45 AM
> You really can't go wrong with Ferrea, Manley, Del-West, or CV products as
> long as you choose the right product for the job required. Good to know. I've only seen titanium valves from Del West and CV.
Do they also make steel valves? > I have ran the 6000 series and the 5000 series Ferrea valves. All I have ran
> in my last several builds have been Ferrea's. They used to have a series
> between the 6000's and the 1000 series. I ran them till they stopped making
> them. The last couple of sets I ran were the 6000's. I did break one 5000
> series, but we decided afterwords that they weren't designed for solid roller
> cams. Ah, now I see. I thought it was the 6000 series you broke but it
was the 5000 series. Sounds like the 6000 series are good bang for
the buck. Dan Jones
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CometGT1974
Gearhead Posts: 413
From: Asheville, NC USA
Registered: Jan 2002
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posted 02-04-2004 12:06 PM
I'm using Ferrea valves in my nitrous motor and they seem to do just fine!!
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