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Strain Gang
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From: Thor, Iowa
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posted 01-06-2004 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Strain Gang   Click Here to Email Strain Gang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We are looking to replace the old GT-40 heads on the 351w, and was looking at the Roush 200's. I really dont know which way to go though, iron or aluminum. Of course the Falcon is drag race only and weighs 2450, so saving weight is not really important. We already have to add 200 pounds to be IHRA legal or 400 to be NHRA legal. What heads do you all like and why. I would also like some recommendations on heads for our set up. Here it is: 351w, .030 over with KB 136 dome pistons, reconditioned truck rods, stock crank, main studs, approx. 11:1 comp., Comp. Soild cam, .576 int. and .592 exh. lift, 250 and 260 dur. at .050, and 106* LSA. Victor Jr, 830 cfm DP, C-4 with brake, 9 in. with 5.29 gears and 31x13 M/T. Thanks for your help once again. Steve Strain

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kid vishus
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posted 01-06-2004 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kid vishus   Click Here to Email kid vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would go with aluminum heads. It's better to have to add weight, and to be able to add it where you need it to make your car scale out easier (front to rear weight, and corner to corner percantages.)

If you are looking to buy heads right now, I may know where you can get a set of CNC ported Brodix heads complete for $1400 (if they haven't sold already.) They have good parts in them, and dyno time only. But he wants to sell them "NOW".

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steve'66
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posted 01-06-2004 09:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Steve,

Vic Jr. heads would match your intake perfect.

SteveW

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Strain Gang
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posted 01-06-2004 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Strain Gang   Click Here to Email Strain Gang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by steve'66:
Steve,

Vic Jr. heads would match your intake perfect.

SteveW


I was also checking them out, but was curious about the BIG (to me)2.05 intake valve. Wouldn't that hurt us? I dont know thats why I am asking. I always knew bigger was not necessacarily better. Please help. We have 1.84 and 1.54 valves now, and I have always felt we needed more valve.

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Moneymaker
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posted 01-06-2004 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have enough cam and cubes for the Victor heads.

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Strain Gang
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posted 01-06-2004 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Strain Gang   Click Here to Email Strain Gang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
You have enough cam and cubes for the Victor heads.


Would you recommend them over the Roush heads we were talking to Roeder about? We could still use our springs, studs, retainers,ect, correct?

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steve'66
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posted 01-06-2004 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
You have enough cam and cubes for the Victor heads.


I thought so too.

SteveW

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Moneymaker
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posted 01-07-2004 12:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Only if you want "MORE POWER"!


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CHIPSBAD67
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posted 01-07-2004 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CHIPSBAD67   Click Here to Email CHIPSBAD67     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
afr 205 or 225's....or edelbrock's heads are ok too. i would only say that about the victors, not the performers or the rpm's. ive been told the iron eagles are good if you want cast iron. so are you gonna sell the ones you got?

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Fastymz
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posted 01-07-2004 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok some one tell me straight, whats better alum or iron heads for car thats driven in most weather not during the real cold days. Long trips, short trips, ect.
Every one keeps saying it's ok to use alum heads nothing will go wrong they are better then before.Other say no way on a mostly street car go with iron heads.

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V-8
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posted 01-07-2004 03:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for V-8   Click Here to Email V-8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Trick Flow R-series aluminum heads can be use with that combination.Best flow bench result.

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Mpcoluv
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posted 01-07-2004 07:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mpcoluv   Click Here to Email Mpcoluv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by V-8:
Trick Flow R-series aluminum heads can be use with that combination.Best flow bench result.

Teh TFS R heads seem to be great but not many people use them. These heads require a special header flange which makes them more expensive to use than other heads.

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Strain Gang
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From: Thor, Iowa
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posted 01-07-2004 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Strain Gang   Click Here to Email Strain Gang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CHIPSBAD67:
afr 205 or 225's....or edelbrock's heads are ok too. i would only say that about the victors, not the performers or the rpm's. ive been told the iron eagles are good if you want cast iron. so are you gonna sell the ones you got?


Hey Chips: we are going to be selling the GT-40's, are you interested? Im looking to get $400 obo out of them. If you want more details, let me know.


Does any one know anything about the SBF alum. heads in Jegs? Part number is: 555-51490. They are not the Jegs/Kasse heads, which are part #555-51500. Just curious, thet look like good heads. Thanks again, Steve.

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