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thumpin cat
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posted 01-04-2004 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thumpin cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When i convert from Power to Manual Steering can i route a belt directly from the crank Pulley to the water pump pulley where the Power Steering belt used to route?

please let me know thanks.

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Fastymz
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posted 01-04-2004 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes

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posted 01-04-2004 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TomP   Click Here to Email TomP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
not exactly... when you ditch the P.S you'll just have an empty groove left on the pulley, the belt that drives the alternator doesn't drive the P.S pump. You should use single groove pulleys to make it look proper.

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posted 01-04-2004 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yup what Tom said, always there to keep me in line.

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thumpin cat
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posted 01-04-2004 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thumpin cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know the belt that drives the alternator does not drive the Power Steering pump however since the power steering is not there and there are empty grooves on the water pump pulley and crankshaft pulley can i route a belt around the two empty grooves (route a belt around just the Water pump pulley and the Crankshaft pulley, then the second set of grooves will drive the alternator)

let me know what you think thanks.

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Fastymz
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posted 01-04-2004 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YES
Tom was saying to make it look better use a single pully. If you wanted to use one belt to drive the WP and Alt.

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indyphil
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posted 01-05-2004 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for indyphil   Click Here to Email indyphil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been wondering the same thing, because having two belts is nice - redundancy in case one breaks on you.

What you mean is having 1 belt for CRANK/WATERPUMP/ALTERNATOR

and another small belt running in the old P/S grooves for just
CRANK/WATERPUMP

But where do I find a belt small enough to fit over just the crank pulley and water pump, and how do you tension it?

I dont think its very feasible without a tensioner.

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posted 01-05-2004 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've seen guys run two belts around the CRANK/WATERPUMP/ALTERNATOR, but I don't think I've seen it the way you said. You wouldn't wan't to lose your ALT either. They say for cars that see high rpms two belts are better in case one flys off.

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 01-05-2004 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've worked on engines that run a belt from the crank to the water pump only, mostly on tractors. You just unbolt the water pump pulley to put the belt on. You see engines on dynos set up like that.

One thing to keep in mind is the groove on a power steering pulley is wider. {17000 series vs 15000 series on alternators.}

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