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powrshftr
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From: Sarnia,Ontario,Canada
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posted 01-03-2004 11:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for powrshftr   Click Here to Email powrshftr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Recently started into a blow-thru turbocharged small block Ford project.My trouble is,with the 347 combo I had planned,Dyno2000 is claiming [email protected]'m worried about the Mexican block hangin' together at this level.I would like to step up to a 393ci combo,but I would need to buy new intake,dist,etc,etc,etc.I'll do it if I HAVE to,but if the 'hecho en mexico' is good enough,then I'm off the hook.Hoping Alex or some of you other deranged individuals with experience torturing stock 289/302 blocks will throw in you $0.02
PS:That 573hp combo was with a real mild turbo cam;with the x303 it predicted over 600hp.Yikes.Wonder how accurate that can be?

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Moneymaker
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posted 01-03-2004 11:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It will handle 600 HP with "good" machining, and proper hardware, gaskets.

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powrshftr
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posted 01-03-2004 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for powrshftr   Click Here to Email powrshftr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks,Alex!Good reaction time on that one;I just got done posting and already had a freakin' reply on it!LOL!

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Daniel Jones
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posted 01-04-2004 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Daniel Jones   Click Here to Email Daniel Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On a related note, did anyone notice that Ford has de-rated some of there race blocks in the 2004 FRPP catalog? The B50 block, which is similar to the Mexican block but with hydraulic roller provisions, is now only rated at 450 HP at 6500 RPM. Seems they are getting conservative on their ratings. The FRPP catalog has a big disclaimer saying that this figure has been backed up by extensive dyno and in-car testing. Lots of no expressed or implied warranty legalese at the front of the catalog, too.

A buddy is running a B50 block making over 500 RWHP at 7500 RPM. His engine builder is suggesting pulling the main caps to see if the bearings show any sign of the caps walking.

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kid vishus
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posted 01-04-2004 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kid vishus   Click Here to Email kid vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A deranged buddy of mine back in Iowa is running a Mexican blocked 289 based motor in his 5 speed equipped '64 Fairlane. It weighs about 2600 lbs w/driver, and runs high nine's in the qrtr, shifting over 9000 rpm. He told me once he launched it at 9600 and shifted it at 9200. He doesn't have any problems with it.

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654212spd
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posted 01-04-2004 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 654212spd   Click Here to Email 654212spd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
dan is that how i think your talking about if it is he has a girdle also on his motor pretty cool using a hydraulic roller cam and lifters

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Daniel Jones
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posted 01-04-2004 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Daniel Jones   Click Here to Email Daniel Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yup, that's him. His builder put the girdle on it but is telling him it's time to start thinking about an R302 block. He has a bunch more hydraulic roller cams to test but they are also considering some solid roller grinds to see how close they are coming with the hydraulic grinds.

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Fordwiser
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posted 01-05-2004 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fordwiser   Click Here to Email Fordwiser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Kid, is that Fairlane black?

Roger

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kid vishus
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posted 01-05-2004 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kid vishus   Click Here to Email kid vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep.

He's from Columbus Junction. His name is Don Clark.

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Fordwiser
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posted 01-06-2004 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fordwiser   Click Here to Email Fordwiser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ran against him at the FFW Cordova, didn't have a chance to talk to him though.

Roger

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