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Topic: MSD digial 6+ questions.
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Dubz
Gearhead Posts: 1718
From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 01-03-2004 07:00 PM
   
As i'm thinking sometime down the road i might have a shot of giggle juice i'd like the timing retard that comes with the digial 6plus, as well as the idea of not having to buy the rpm pills.So anyway....what all would i need to run a MSD Digital 6 ignition? I'd be using an MSD distributor with it, i need to re-curve my stock one since i installed the new intake and got rid of the EGR. Do i need a pickup or crank trigger of some kind?? And how do they actually change the timing?
 Thanks for the help again guys ------------------
1974 Gran Torino
351W with rpm air gap intake, Holley 670 carb, 1" 4 hole spacer
Planned : Summit cam, competition headers, milling and cleaning up heads, and alot of non-engine stuff
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 8826
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 01-03-2004 07:29 PM
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Originally posted by Dubz:
So anyway....what all would i need to run a MSD Digital 6 ignition? I'd be using an MSD distributor with it, i need to re-curve my stock one since i installed the new intake and got rid of the EGR.Do i need a pickup or crank trigger of some kind?? And how do they actually change the timing?
Thanks for the help again guys
You have everything you need to run the 6+. It's a great box, I run one on the other car. Best bang for your $$$. The MSD distributor or any other electronic distributor will fire it. The retard is electronic and built into the box. No magic, just a simple electrical hook-up. SteveW
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Dubz
Gearhead Posts: 1718
From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 01-03-2004 07:37 PM
interesting...i have no idea how they work, so it is magic to me  Good stuff, would you think i should re-curve the stock distributor or go with an aftermarket one? I was leaning towards the aftermarket, but if the stock one will work up to 5500rpm there isn't a big need to upgrade.
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 8826
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 01-03-2004 09:51 PM
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Originally posted by Dubz:
interesting...i have no idea how they work, so it is magic to me Good stuff, would you think i should re-curve the stock distributor or go with an aftermarket one? I was leaning towards the aftermarket, but if the stock one will work up to 5500rpm there isn't a big need to upgrade.
Dubz, Use the stock one and lock it out at 34 degrees or so. The 6+ has timing retard for starting so you'll be fine, assuming you'll have a 3,000+ converter in it.  SteveW
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Dubz
Gearhead Posts: 1718
From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 01-04-2004 04:10 PM
allright, now what about the stock coil, will it work with the new ignition until i scrounge up enough for a good coil.And what kind of coil could i use for the street?
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N266fords
Gearhead Posts: 1404
From: Spokane ,WA USA
Registered: Apr 2003
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posted 01-04-2004 04:25 PM
the blaster is only 35.00 but your stock one will work so long as it is for electronic ign and not points. The blaster hvcII coil is suppost to be a good durable one,not to be confused with the hvc2 the non blaster one its only for the track and msd 7 boxes.Bruce
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 18703
From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 01-04-2004 04:25 PM
Dubz I use the Blaster2 MSD coil for $30.
I'm going with the 6al when I change over. Is the Digial6 worth the extra $80 or so dollars over the 6al ? ------------------
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clevelandstyle
Gearhead Posts: 1035
From: Connersville, IN
Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 01-04-2004 05:43 PM
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Originally posted by Fastymz:
Is the Digial6 worth the extra $80 or so dollars over the 6al ?
If you are starting from scratch, I think it's worth it. If you go with the 6AL, look at all of the accessories you might need or want.
2 step
various chips(or adjustable chip)
Optional start retard.
Possible other stuff Add all of that up and compair the price to a digital6 that has most of that stuff built in. It won't take long for the digital6 to become cheaper than the 6AL.
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Ben
Grabber Green '70 Mach I 351C 4V
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 18703
From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 01-04-2004 06:14 PM
Will the Digial 6 work with my dura spark dist, if so then from what Ben said thats one I should go with.
So thanks to Ben I'll be out yet another $80. 
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clevelandstyle
Gearhead Posts: 1035
From: Connersville, IN
Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 01-04-2004 08:54 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Fastymz:
So thanks to Ben I'll be out yet another $80.
I love to spend other peoples money  ------------------
Ben
Grabber Green '70 Mach I 351C 4V
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Tom G
Gearhead Posts: 587
From: Bethlehem, Pa USA
Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 01-05-2004 04:26 PM
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And how do they actually change the timing?
:confused:Thanks for the help again guys [/B]
They delay the trigger signal to the coil to retard the spark.------------------
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 18703
From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 01-05-2004 05:46 PM
Does any one know if it will work my Dura spark dist and blaster2 coil for the ford dura spark system ?
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 8826
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 01-05-2004 05:52 PM
Yes it will work perfect. SteveW
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 18703
From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 01-05-2004 05:54 PM
Thanks Dr.SteveW ------------------
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RonnieT
Gearhead Posts: 827
From: Port Allen, La. 70767
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 01-05-2004 09:39 PM
Scoop, You can go to the MSD site and download the wiring diagrams for connecting the Digital 6 to a Duraspark dist.
http://www.msdignition.com/
Look under the downloads and you will see all the manuals. ------------------
Ronnie
69 mach1 351W-4V engineless at the time!
70 Torino GT 351C-4v with a "shaker"
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Fastymz
Moderator Posts: 18703
From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 01-06-2004 01:48 AM
Thanks Ronnie, I guess you knew what my next question would have been. ------------------
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