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Topic: E.T. HELP
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RONNIE
Gearhead Posts: 161
From: MD
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 12-30-2003 05:37 PM
   
i was wondering if any one had any suggestion on how to get my car in the mid 12.s i have 1 1/2 headers would 1 5/8 make a big differance you can see whats all in my motor at www.rons.mustangii.net the car been 12.80 @105 thanks ronnie------------------
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capri man
Gearhead Posts: 7249
From: doerun, ga.
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 12-30-2003 05:50 PM
the easiest speed is to lose weight somewhere. if you can find 100 lbs, it should be worth somewhere close to 1/10.
how about getting an extra set of wheels and mount some real slicks on them just for the track? i personally dont think the header swap will help enough to notice. just my opinion, i could be wrong.
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mike r
racing is real
everything else is just a game.
81 capri-7.51 @89mph 1/8
1.54 60 ft. http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/billswebsite/pg06.html
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 26813
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 12-30-2003 05:53 PM
Your car has 60 foot issues. 
The 105 MPH trap speed is indicative of mid 12 second ET's so you have the power.
Most good leaving efficiant cars that run in the 12.50 to 12.60 range run 104-105 MPH.
Work on the traction or off line acceleration to pick up your ET's.
You need to apply the power you have.------------------
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capri man
Gearhead Posts: 7249
From: doerun, ga.
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 12-30-2003 08:44 PM
see, i told you!!! LOL  ------------------
mike r
racing is real
everything else is just a game.
81 capri-7.51 @89mph 1/8
1.54 60 ft. http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/billswebsite/pg06.html
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 9489
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 12-30-2003 09:27 PM
Ronnie,I noticed you run drag radials and slapper bars. Does it spin off the line? SteveW
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Mr. FoMoGO
Journeyman Posts: 70
From: Ga. USA
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted 12-31-2003 11:59 PM
Take battery from under hood & install in trunk over right rear tire. Taking weight off front & install it in rear where it will help tracion the most. Makes for better weight transfer. Also connect front & rear frames------------------
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Mr. FoMoGO
Journeyman Posts: 70
From: Ga. USA
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted 01-01-2004 12:05 AM
Work on getting power to the ground first, then work on making more power.
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RONNIE
Gearhead Posts: 161
From: MD
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 01-02-2004 05:42 PM
quote:
Originally posted by steve'66:
Ronnie,I noticed you run drag radials and slapper bars. Does it spin off the line? SteveW
steve the car leaves good right off the line but about 10. 15. feet out the shift light comes on then goes off,it seems to make good power after the 60 ft, thanks for the reply ronnie------------------
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RONNIE
Gearhead Posts: 161
From: MD
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 01-02-2004 05:45 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Mr. FoMoGO:
Take battery from under hood & install in trunk over right rear tire. Taking weight off front & install it in rear where it will help tracion the most. Makes for better weight transfer. Also connect front & rear frames
what do you meen buy connect the front and rear frames thanks ronnie
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 9489
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 01-02-2004 05:57 PM
quote:
Originally posted by RONNIE:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by steve'66:
[b]Ronnie,I noticed you run drag radials and slapper bars. Does it spin off the line? SteveW
steve the car leaves good right off the line but about 10. 15. feet out the shift light comes on then goes off,it seems to make good power after the 60 ft, thanks for the reply ronnie[/B][/QUOTE] Ronnie, Yeah you're spinning after it initially hooks. You need to get the front end up and keep it up for the first 100' at least to keep the tires planted. Also drag radials need to heated up pretty good. You have a line lock? Run 90-10 front shock and loose the sway bar for starters.  SteveW
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 9489
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 01-02-2004 05:58 PM
quote:
Originally posted by RONNIE:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mr. FoMoGO:
[b]Take battery from under hood & install in trunk over right rear tire. Taking weight off front & install it in rear where it will help tracion the most. Makes for better weight transfer. Also connect front & rear frames
what do you meen buy connect the front and rear frames thanks ronnie
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Ronnie,
He means sub-frame connecters. SteveW
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V-8
Gearhead Posts: 323
From: TURKEY/Istanbul
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted 01-02-2004 06:32 PM
I think changing the differential ratio is the best modify for lowering E.T.
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 9489
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 01-02-2004 06:57 PM
quote:
Originally posted by V-8:
I think changing the differential ratio is the best modify for lowering E.T.
He's running a spooled 4.10 gear, so that's ok. SteveW
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V-8
Gearhead Posts: 323
From: TURKEY/Istanbul
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted 01-02-2004 07:21 PM
I know he is runing with 4.10 gear.I want to say changing with 4.56 [ ]
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 9489
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 01-02-2004 09:42 PM
4.10s are perfect for his short tires. SteveW
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mustangboy
Gearhead Posts: 1098
From: Ont, Canada
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 01-03-2004 01:25 AM
Open the headers and get some slicks and your there. ------------------
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V-8
Gearhead Posts: 323
From: TURKEY/Istanbul
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted 01-03-2004 06:30 AM
what is the tire size?
X pipe makes more hp than open headers and H pipe?I read in HOT ROAD magazine
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V-8
Gearhead Posts: 323
From: TURKEY/Istanbul
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted 01-03-2004 06:44 AM
RONNIE;
what is the engine max shift point (rpm)?which rpm you finished the race? And what is the car weight?Rear-End 8 or 9 inch?
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RONNIE
Gearhead Posts: 161
From: MD
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 01-03-2004 07:44 AM
quote:
Originally posted by steve'66:
Ronnie,Yeah you're spinning after it initially hooks. You need to get the front end up and keep it up for the first 100' at least to keep the tires planted. Also drag radials need to heated up pretty good. You have a line lock? Run 90-10 front shock and loose the sway bar for starters. steve thanks for the fast reply,and i dont have line lock SteveW
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RONNIE
Gearhead Posts: 161
From: MD
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 01-03-2004 07:49 AM
quote:
Originally posted by V-8:
RONNIE;
what is the engine max shift point (rpm)?which rpm you finished the race? And what is the car weight?Rear-End 8 or 9 inch?
i shift at 6800 rpmi go though the traps around 5800-6000,the car weight is 3100 pounds,i have a 8in. 410. spool, thanks ronnie
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RONNIE
Gearhead Posts: 161
From: MD
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 01-03-2004 07:52 AM
quote:
Originally posted by V-8:
what is the tire size?
X pipe makes more hp than open headers and H pipe?I read in HOT ROAD magazine
no x pipe and the tires are 26in. tall, ronnie
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 26813
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 01-03-2004 03:37 PM
quote:
Originally posted by V-8:
what is the tire size?
X pipe makes more hp than open headers and H pipe?I read in HOT ROAD magazine
BULLSH*T! 
Don't believe everything you read. Especially in "Hot Rod" magazines.
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Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,&'03
First SS/MA in the TENS!
IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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V-8
Gearhead Posts: 323
From: TURKEY/Istanbul
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted 01-03-2004 06:45 PM
So if you can't finish the trap in redline you must lower the def. ratio 4.56 ratio nice for you???
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 9489
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 01-03-2004 07:24 PM
V-8He's having trouble with traction now! More gear will only make it worse and it is still a street car. S.L.R. is important, too much is not a good thing.
All he needs is more traction, then he'll probably develop a bog, then we'll get it to power through the bog and he'll be off and running.  SteveW
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V-8
Gearhead Posts: 323
From: TURKEY/Istanbul
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted 01-03-2004 07:37 PM
So first he must improve his car traction.
RONNIE>>what is your slicks condition and which type of slicks you are using now?(et street,drag radials...)
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CHIPSBAD67
Gearhead Posts: 396
From: LOU,KY;USA
Registered: Sep 2003
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posted 01-04-2004 12:53 AM
just would like to comment on the open headers/x-pipe debate. my car picked up a solid 2 tenths going from a Perfect exausted setup...and i do mean perfect...to open headers and 18 inch collector extentions. now thats .2 in the 1/8...not 1/4. my combo is pump gas and n/a. i have yet to see a car that runs better muffled, if it does something else is probably wrong. also, hot rod magazine is 99 percent b.s. %100 of the time. last i heard they've got the wrx beating the 03 cobra by a tenth in some article. at least thats what im told.------------------
306, 4speed, 4.11's....best 1/8 mile 7.58 at 92mph with 1.72 60ft. PUMP GAS/NO ADDERS/STREET TIRES
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