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Topic: the best oil ?
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bill haab
Gearhead Posts: 441
From: south bend in.
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 12-29-2003 07:31 PM
   
I got a t56 tranny & a moser rear end. whats the best oil?
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 25883
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 12-29-2003 07:47 PM
Royal Purple.  ------------------
Alex Denysenko
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 8826
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 12-29-2003 09:31 PM
I knew it before I opened the post.  Can't argue though, RP is pretty good stuff. SteveW
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bill haab
Gearhead Posts: 441
From: south bend in.
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 12-29-2003 09:54 PM
what about red line
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Strain Gang
Gearhead Posts: 212
From: Thor, Iowa
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted 12-29-2003 10:31 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
Royal Purple.
I will second that as well. NO oil better anywhere!!! Steve.
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Billy Mac
Gearhead Posts: 824
From: S.Ga
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 12-30-2003 12:38 AM
Hmmmm....I'm contractually obligated to recommend LUCAS Oil Products.....I have, however, heard good things about RP....
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67357C
Gearhead Posts: 475
From: Newcastle, WA.
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 12-30-2003 01:54 AM
I like astro-glideErrrrr, wrong rear end lube... sorry never mind.
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V8 Thumper
Gearhead Posts: 4377
From: Arizona
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 12-30-2003 08:33 AM
Hey Bill, if your trans and 3rd are newly rebuilt, I personally would run a petroleum gear lube for a few hundred miles or so, while everything is seating in. THEN switch over to this:
http://www.royalpurple.com/prodsa/prodsua.html#bu4
I just recently tried RP 'Max Gear' synthetic gear oil in my T-10; quick, sharp, butter smooth shifts  While at the Auto Club Finals in Pomona, the Royal Purple display had surplus product in open cases for $5 a bottle, so I bought some... gooooooood stuff . Also got some Purple Ice, I'll try that in the spring/summer. The engine oil is amazing stuff, I highly recommend it  ------------------
1965 GT coupe, 333ci aluminum headed/solid cammed stroker, four speed, 3.70:1 9" All Blue Oval, no blue bottle
http://mustangsandmore.50megs.com/V8Thumper.html [This message has been edited by V8 Thumper (edited 12-30-2003).]
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Ryan Wilke
Gearhead Posts: 2060
From: Stanton, Michigan 49707
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 12-30-2003 03:19 PM
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Originally posted by bill haab:
what about red line
Bill, I use RedLine products and like them. I'd guess that unless you are looking for that last 2HP @9K rpms, that it would be tuff to distinguish between Royal Purple, Lucas, RedLine, and the other similar 100% synthetic lubes. If I were you, I'd simply go with the 100% synthetic brand that is easiest to obtain in your area and you're willing to pay for. I also agree with V8Thumper to break-in trans/rearend/engines with Dino juice... Just my 2 cents,
Ryan
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N266fords
Gearhead Posts: 1404
From: Spokane ,WA USA
Registered: Apr 2003
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posted 12-30-2003 03:32 PM
Hey Guys we should support MoneyMakerRacing Every change you get, and one way is to buy products from Alex. Like Royal Purple..Just My .02
Bruce
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Perk 351C
Journeyman Posts: 67
From: Cape Neddick Me USA
Registered: Sep 2003
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posted 12-30-2003 04:48 PM
I am shure royal is good stuff,but,Amsoil is good stuff too! Perk
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 25883
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 12-30-2003 05:43 PM
We use Royal Purple because it WORKS and does what is promised.
Many make claims that they cannot back up.
Amsoil is one of them. It is not a BAD product at all, it is very durable and is a good lubricant. It just does not generate MORE POWER than other synthetics.
Red Line is also an excellent product.Mobil One is OK, but if you are going to spend the money then opt for the RP or RL. I have no use for any Lucas Oil products (even though they are the NHRA sportsman sponsor).
Anyone who is a proffessional mechanic or has been in the automobile business knows exactly what Lucas Oil products are famous for and what their primary usage is. It hs a place in the used car industry and on the mass merchandiser's DIY snake oil shelf. The only "miracle" chemical or oil additive that I wholeheartedly beleive in is Restore.
You can pour all of the rest down the sewer and get the same results.
That's my $.02 anyway for what it's worth.
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Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,&'03
First SS/MA in the TENS!
IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
www.moneymakerracing.com
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Daniel Jones
Gearhead Posts: 813
From: St. Louis, MO
Registered: Aug 99
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posted 12-30-2003 10:01 PM
One other thing to know about mass market motor oils. The EPA has recently forced the removal of the zinc additive ZDDP from automobile oils. In older, high mileage, engines that use oil, the ZDDP additive can cause the catalytic converters to stop working. ZDDP is an anti-scuffing agent and is good for flat tappet engines. In roller tappet engines, it's not so important. Diesel and motorcycle oil still contain ZDDP, so you can still get oil with ZDDP or you can add GM's EOS (engine oil supplement) which is primarily ZDDP. Delvac 1 is a diesel synthetic oil similar to Mobil 1 and Rotella is a conventional diesel oil. Both should have ZDDP. Dan Jones
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Strain Gang
Gearhead Posts: 212
From: Thor, Iowa
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted 12-30-2003 10:38 PM
As I stated before, I like the Royal Purple for two reasons. First is we used to run Mobil 1 5w-30 synthetic and when we switched to Royal Purple Racing #11, we picked up an honest .15 in the eighth mile. I have it documented in our log book. The only thing we changed before we went racing that day was the oil. The weather was a touch warmer as well. Second of all, when I took the engine apart this year, the #8 rod bearing lost its crush, and was on the verge of spinning. While it was not down to the copper yet, I firmly believe if we had not been running the oil we were, it would have blown up long ago.
As far as other oils, the only other oil I have experience with is the Lucas Oil stabilizer for diesels. I have a couple truckers whose trucks I service who have me dump a gallon in at every service. When we went to put rods and mains in one guys engine, they looked remarkable for having 600,000 miles on it. These are just my experiences with them. Oh yeah, and buying our Royal Purple from the gang at Moneymaker sure helps too. Steve.
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bill haab
Gearhead Posts: 441
From: south bend in.
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 12-31-2003 02:57 PM
Drove to lane auto. today and got me some purple.Lanes main hub is 20 min. away from my house . Every time I go money fly's out of me. It's like a kid in the candy store.
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CometGT1974
Gearhead Posts: 372
From: Asheville, NC USA
Registered: Jan 2002
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posted 12-31-2003 03:40 PM
Alex, what RP product should I run in my motor? Needs to be something compatible with heavy nitrous use.
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Earle Holt
Gearhead Posts: 106
From: Camden, Maine
Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 01-01-2004 12:02 AM
My vote is with Royal Purple as well. If you've ever been to a race with heads-up class eliminations, then you've seen the steady stream of racers going back and forth from the RP tent, looking for a .02 or .03 advantage.Earle
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Tom G
Gearhead Posts: 587
From: Bethlehem, Pa USA
Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 01-01-2004 01:05 AM
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The only "miracle" chemical or oil additive that I wholeheartedly beleive in is Restore.
You can pour all of the rest down the sewer and get the same results.
That's my $.02 anyway for what it's worth.
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I second the recommendation about restore, It absolutely does what it says it will. I couldn't beleive it at first. a 390 smoking badly maybe on 6 cylinders restored it 20 miles later all 8 and running alot better.------------------
67 Mustang F/B 302 GT-40X FMS Crate engine 5 spd cable clutch 13.39 on 205/70/14 BFG @104 mph Flowmasters X Pipe 4.11 9". Body shop NOW! 03 Focus ZX3 BORLA exhaust Wings West spoiler (Arrest ME RED)
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Moneymaker
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From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 01-01-2004 12:27 PM
quote:
Originally posted by CometGT1974:
Alex, what RP product should I run in my motor? Needs to be something compatible with heavy nitrous use.
#21 would be a great all around choice. For limited "go fast" conditions a switch to #11 would be worth some ET.
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Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,&'03
First SS/MA in the TENS!
IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
www.moneymakerracing.com
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sigtauenus
Gearhead Posts: 2219
From: Va Beach
Registered: Jun 2000
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posted 01-02-2004 03:50 PM
Alex, I assume the RP goes into Moneymaker, but what about your daily drivers?
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 25883
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 01-02-2004 04:41 PM
RP in EVERYTHING we own or drive!
As a matter of fact, I just serviced Beth's Durango this morning with 5w30 RP.
When we switched her 318 5.2 liter 4x4 overfrom petroleum, we picked up a FULL 2 MPG.
The crew cab has been on it for a long time and runs like a top. ------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,&'03
First SS/MA in the TENS!
IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
www.moneymakerracing.com
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sigtauenus
Gearhead Posts: 2219
From: Va Beach
Registered: Jun 2000
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posted 01-03-2004 07:12 AM
I saw somewhere that RP recommends you use the regular drain interval recommended while under warranty, but what about after? Are you still changing this stuff out at 3-5,000 miles?
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 25883
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 01-03-2004 03:29 PM
Yes. The crew cab avery 3-3500 and others in the 5k range.
The crew cab gets the most severe usage obviously.------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,&'03
First SS/MA in the TENS!
IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
www.moneymakerracing.com
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