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Topic: Hooker 6208, 351W, TFS TW, Fit??
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Von Journeyman Posts: 38 From: Jay, OK Registered: Oct 2003
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posted 12-03-2003 03:20 PM
Looking at buying a set of these for my 70 Stang with TFS TW heads, on a 351W. Has anybody used these on a similar combo? Wondering about the fit, problems ,tips, etc. Also, does anybody else make a 13/4 tube header for this combo? Thanks
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Tea'sGrabber Gearhead Posts: 237 From: Seattle, Wash. Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 12-03-2003 03:50 PM
go here... http://www.tubularheaders.com/index.html------------------ Todd 71 Mav Grabber All orig 306 cu.in. Cast Iron heads. Carillo Rods.Best et. 10.71 @ 124 thru the mufflers. http://mustangsandmore.50megs.com/MembersPics/TeasGrabber.html
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V-8 Gearhead Posts: 198 From: Turkey/Istanbul Registered: Dec 2003
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posted 12-03-2003 06:05 PM
hi von, i am using tfs tw heads on my 351W. first you must buy longer than stock push rods and after market roller rockers.the tw flow bench result is better than other street heads. they breathe very very well idle to 6500rpm[This message has been edited by V-8 (edited 12-03-2003).] [This message has been edited by V-8 (edited 12-03-2003).]
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V8 Thumper Gearhead Posts: 3936 From: Orange, Ca. United States of America Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 12-03-2003 09:05 PM
The Twisted Wedge heads have stock exhaust port location, so fit is no different than stock heads. The 'R' heads have the ports raised .500". The motor compartment of a '70 is roomy, so I don't think you'll have any problems at all ------------------ 1965 GT coupe, 333ci aluminum headed/solid cammed stroker, four speed, 3.70:1 9" All Blue Oval, no blue bottle http://mustangsandmore.50megs.com/V8Thumper.html
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ccode67 Gearhead Posts: 1805 From: douglasville,ga,usa Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 12-04-2003 07:08 AM
Ford Powertrain Applications makes them. www.fordpowertrain.com Ask for Stan, he really knows his stuff.------------------ Stuart MCA #48902 M&M #1091 67 stang 5 speed, 351W, Edelbrock Performer RPM package my photo page
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kid vishus Gearhead Posts: 5105 From: middle of NC Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 12-04-2003 07:35 AM
quote: Originally posted by V8 Thumper: The motor compartment of a '70 is roomy, so I don't think you'll have any problems at all
I have the Hooker super comps on my W powered '70, and the strange thing is, even though they have smaller tubes, they fit tighter than the 1 7/8" Hooker super comps for my cleveland did.
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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 36138 From: Saco, Maine Registered: May 99
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posted 12-04-2003 04:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by ccode67: Ford Powertrain Applications makes them. www.fordpowertrain.com Ask for Stan, he really knows his stuff.
So yours are holding up well? ------------------ '70 Mustang Mach 1 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 Open '70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open '72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Loc '94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip
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matt d Journeyman Posts: 19 From: Coventry, CT USA Registered: Mar 2003
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posted 12-04-2003 09:08 PM
I have Hooker 6208's in my '66 with a 351W and twisted wedge heads. It is a tight fit on my car, but should be cake on a '70.I first bought the hedmans for a 351W in a '66, but they did not fit with the twisted wedge heads. The problem with the TW heads is not the port location (which is stock), it is the valve cover rail location. It is raised about 0.3" to make it easier to clear roller rockers, etc. Normally who cares, but the primary tubes of some headers (like the hedmans and the hookers) come up towards the valve covers for cylinder #3 and #7. It was not a problem with the hookers but the hedmans interfered with the valve covers and could not be used. The hooker 6208's seem to be good quality. Good luck. ------------------ 66 coupe with: 351W, Comp Cams XE262H cam, Trickflow heads, Performer RPM intake, Edelbrock 600 carb, Ford roller rockers, Hooker Super Comps, Dr. Gas X-pipe with 2-chamber delta flows, Tremec TKO, Steeda Tri-Ax, 9" rear w/ 3.70s and a True-Trac limited slip, 5-leaf rear springs, 620s front, KYBs, shelby A-arm drop, Torque-thrust IIs, autopower roll bar with retractable shoulder belts, custom dash and electrical system
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Von Journeyman Posts: 38 From: Jay, OK Registered: Oct 2003
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posted 12-05-2003 12:38 AM
Had the same problem with Hedmans on this car with the TFS heads. This is the honest truth. We could not get to the damn valve cover bolt. Lower one, at the firewall. We had to (go ahead and laugh) hold the back of the valve cover down with a c-clamp. It was totally stupid, but we didnt have a chance. Needless to say the hedmans are history.
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ccode67 Gearhead Posts: 1805 From: douglasville,ga,usa Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 12-05-2003 08:43 AM
quote: Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere: So yours are holding up well?
These headers are still perfect. They are the nickel-chrome and so far have seen MANY miles in the rain (Power Tour 2002, Charlotte MCA,plus many other trips) They clean up with glass cleaner and a little chrome polish. NO RUST anywhere thus far. The thick flanges have never leaked, plenty of clearance for everything, the only change I had to make was using a '69 z-bar instead of the '67. I highly recommend their product, Stan knows his product and told me before I ordered that the z-bar would have to be changed. ------------------ Stuart MCA #48902 M&M #1091 67 stang 5 speed, 351W, Edelbrock Performer RPM package my photo page
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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 36138 From: Saco, Maine Registered: May 99
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posted 12-05-2003 08:48 AM
Have they blued on you?------------------ '70 Mustang Mach 1 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 Open '70 Mustang Convertible 250 I6/3 speed/2.79 Open '72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Loc '94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip
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ccode67 Gearhead Posts: 1805 From: douglasville,ga,usa Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 12-05-2003 10:56 AM
quote: Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere: Have they blued on you?
They blued when I first fired the new engine, I think it was oily handprints (mine)that caused it, only on three tubes. I believe if I had wiped them down before the first time they got hot it wouldn't have done it. I polished most of it off with Blue Away (all old motorcyclists know about that stuff). They haven't turned blue again, only polishing now is for rain dirt or dust. My cousin recently fired the fresh 428, his headers are ceramic coated, they blued up right away, don't know how he'll polish that stuff.
------------------ Stuart MCA #48902 M&M #1091 67 stang 5 speed, 351W, Edelbrock Performer RPM package my photo page
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kid vishus Gearhead Posts: 5105 From: middle of NC Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 12-05-2003 06:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by ccode67: My cousin recently fired the fresh 428, his headers are ceramic coated, they blued up right away,
That's odd. Were they ceramic coated or chrome? Who coated them, or were they bought already coated when he bought them? I don't know if I have ever seen ceramic coated headers turn blue. I have seen lots of chrome headers turn blue.
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ccode67 Gearhead Posts: 1805 From: douglasville,ga,usa Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 12-08-2003 07:24 AM
quote: Originally posted by kid vishus: That's odd. Were they ceramic coated or chrome? Who coated them, or were they bought already coated when he bought them?I don't know if I have ever seen ceramic coated headers turn blue. I have seen lots of chrome headers turn blue.
They are the Hooker Super Comps he had on the car for a while, he sent them out to be coated, they looked great but blued around the flange. ------------------ Stuart MCA #48902 M&M #1091 67 stang 5 speed, 351W, Edelbrock Performer RPM package my photo page
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