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Topic: is this intake any good?
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capri man
Gearhead Posts: 6417
From: doerun, ga.
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 11-23-2003 11:33 AM
   
offenhauser 360 #5691 its a dual plane intake but the runners are ran like a single plane. anyone know anything about the charistics of it? thanks------------------
mike r
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Moneymaker
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posted 11-24-2003 07:13 PM
OTS! 
Street rod, street car, or show queen stuff.------------------
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capri man
Gearhead Posts: 6417
From: doerun, ga.
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posted 11-24-2003 08:43 PM
would it be better or worse than an rpm or a reg performer?------------------
mike r
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Moneymaker
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posted 11-24-2003 11:23 PM
Is it for a race car or a street car?------------------
Alex Denysenko
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capri man
Gearhead Posts: 6417
From: doerun, ga.
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 11-25-2003 07:34 AM
i was thinking about trying it on my race car to try to get rid of that damn stumble i got. i have tried 5 different carbs and i dont think they were all bad. thinking the high rpm victor jr i got now may be the prob. i only got 240 degrees dur at .050.------------------
mike r
racing is real
everything else is just a game.
81 capri-7.51 @89mph 1/8
1.54 60 ft. http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/billswebsite/pg06.html
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Rustang
Gearhead Posts: 733
From: Clarion PA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 11-25-2003 07:39 AM
years ago I ran an Offy 360 on my windsor. Swapped it for a Torker II (which is a terrible manifold too!) and picked up 2 tenths and 3 mph. ------------------
'68 mustang 351 clevor- 10.92@124
'67 Stang, 351W -11.18@118
'69 351C Torino-14.90@100
'78 Pickup 351W-15.56@88
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Moneymaker
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posted 11-25-2003 10:32 AM
quote:
Originally posted by capri man:
i was thinking about trying it on my race car to try to get rid of that damn stumble i got. i have tried 5 different carbs and i dont think they were all bad. thinking the high rpm victor jr i got now may be the prob. i only got 240 degrees dur at .050.
Have you tried a 4 hole one inch spacer Mike? ------------------
Alex Denysenko
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capri man
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From: doerun, ga.
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posted 11-25-2003 01:06 PM
yup, tried that too alex. i have tried everything that you and several other people have suggested. the only carb that will work on it is my 500cfm 2bbl and it works great. does that tell you anything about air volocity or speed or any of those other fancy technical words?? the engine has been completely disasembled with a new block installed. so that kinda rules out vaccum leaks etc. (i think)------------------
mike r
racing is real
everything else is just a game.
81 capri-7.51 @89mph 1/8
1.54 60 ft. http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/billswebsite/pg06.html
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Moneymaker
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posted 11-25-2003 01:46 PM
Then the only explanation is improper cam timing or valve adjustment. It's degreed wrong or there are some tight rockers. ------------------
Alex Denysenko
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bluestreek
Gearhead Posts: 1724
From: Athens,GA
Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 11-25-2003 02:32 PM
If it works good with one carb it should work good with another if you can figure out what the 500 2brl is doing that the others are not. I have a spare RPM intake that I would trade the VJ if you want.------------------
1966 Mustang Coupe: Custom glass hood and BIG scoop sits atop a 289 stroked to 331 c.i., Steel crank, rods and girdle, TFS alum. heads, Stealth 8020 intake, Xtreme 268 Solid Roller, Holley 750 HP, long tubes, 4speed, 9" 3.50 posi.
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n2oMike
Gearhead Posts: 2419
From: Spencer, WV
Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 11-25-2003 02:53 PM
Are you using jet extensions? On launch, the secondary jets (toward the front of the bowl) can get uncovered and suck air. The 500 has no secondaries, so you don't have anything to worry about. I'd try a set of the screw-in types and see what happens. Holley part #116-10 contains two screw-in jet extensions and a notched float. Give it a try and see what happens. The kit is only around $17. I don't really trust the 'push-on' type extensions very much. Good Luck! ------------------
Mike Burch
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Moneymaker
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From: Lyons, IL, USA
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posted 11-25-2003 03:28 PM
Mike, my understanding is that the stumble occurs at any time, even at a static rest.------------------
Alex Denysenko
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capri man
Gearhead Posts: 6417
From: doerun, ga.
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 11-25-2003 03:56 PM
yup, it goes whoooop bop bop bop whooooop!!
even in neutral!!!!------------------
mike r
racing is real
everything else is just a game.
81 capri-7.51 @89mph 1/8
1.54 60 ft. http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/billswebsite/pg06.html
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Moneymaker
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posted 11-25-2003 04:05 PM
If memory serves me isn't this a girlyman juice cam? 
If so, just as a test, put about .002 to .003 lash hot in all of the rocker arms.
One at a time of course with the engine off.------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,&'03
First SS/MA in the TENS!
IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
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capri man
Gearhead Posts: 6417
From: doerun, ga.
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 11-25-2003 05:00 PM
yup here is what i got.
lunati 51099
GROSS DURATION = 286/296
DURATION @ .050 = 230/234
VALVE LIFT = .536/.544
LOBE SEP = 110
ADVANCE = 2
HYRAULIC CAMi read somewhere that with the victor jr, if you have less than 250 dur. at .050 you will get a stumble. could that be my prob? i will try the lash tomorrow alex. thanks. ------------------
mike r
racing is real
everything else is just a game.
81 capri-7.51 @89mph 1/8
1.54 60 ft. http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/billswebsite/pg06.html
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Moneymaker
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posted 11-25-2003 05:41 PM
quote:
i read somewhere that with the victor jr, if you have less than 250 dur. at .050 you will get a stumble. could that be my prob? [/B]
Nope!
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Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,&'03
First SS/MA in the TENS!
IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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