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Topic: New NASCAR head approved
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Rustang
Gearhead Posts: 805
From: Clarion PA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 11-20-2003 07:41 AM
   
I'm wondering how different it is from the current Yates design  http://www.mustangweekly.com/2003/November/news/n11-7-6th.asp ------------------
'68 mustang 351 clevor- 10.92@124
'67 Stang, 351W -11.18@118
'69 351C Torino-14.90@100
'78 Pickup 351W-15.56@88
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Perk 351C
Journeyman Posts: 68
From: Cape Neddick Me USA
Registered: Sep 2003
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posted 11-20-2003 08:10 AM
Well, It's about time! One Ford in the Nascar points top ten,not too good.Perk351C
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Mpcoluv
Gearhead Posts: 1333
From: Charlotte NC usa
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 11-20-2003 08:24 AM
I think is is like the SB2 chebby head where the intake ports point towards the center of the engine.
So the front two chambers/ports on each side are mirror images of the rear.
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Tbird
Gearhead Posts: 298
From: USA
Registered: May 2003
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posted 11-20-2003 09:28 AM
The cylinder head has been listed in the FRPP catalog for a year or so now....M-6049-SC1http://www.oemfordparts.com/PartDetail.asp?S=1&PartID=1172&SubCategoryID=38
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Mpcoluv
Gearhead Posts: 1333
From: Charlotte NC usa
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 11-20-2003 09:38 AM
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Originally posted by Tbird:
The cylinder head has been listed in the FRPP catalog for a year or so now....M-6049-SC1http://www.oemfordparts.com/PartDetail.asp?S=1&PartID=1172&SubCategoryID=38
Actually, that is not the new NASCAR head from what I gather.
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Rustang
Gearhead Posts: 805
From: Clarion PA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 11-20-2003 10:15 AM
There was a head Ford made in the early 90's that I saw at a swap meet once. It had the symetrical intake ports (mirrored, front 2 cylinders to the rear 2) and had the center exhausts "siamesed"). NASCAR never made that head legal but sounds like it may have been ahead of its time.  If memory serves the heads I saw were run on an ARCA car and it kicked a$$
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bifs66
Gearhead Posts: 271
From: Maryland
Registered: Apr 2000
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posted 11-20-2003 06:26 PM
From what I understand, the new head has some changes to the port layout, not a major redesign. I think its a tribute to the Ford production based NASCAR engine, with 30 year old roots, that it has remained competitive with the pure racing engines developed by GM and Chrysler. Its telling that the classic SBC (replaced by the SB2) had to be abandoned by GM for them to be competitive with it's old rival Ford engine. Its also interesting that the the newly designed Toyota, GM, and Chrysler NASCAR engines all have the middle two exhaust ports adjacent to eachother. It must have something to due with arranging more efficient intake ports for a single plane, single 4V intake. The new Ford head keeps the traditional Ford layout; although there is some talk of a completely new engine design to come a few years down the road. It almost looks to me that NASCAR is slowly implementing the concept where everyone uses the same generic engine and body. ------------------
Bernie Frank
66 Fastback restomod (12.8 @ 112mph)
85 GT (preserved)
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Daniel Jones
Gearhead Posts: 872
From: St. Louis, MO
Registered: Aug 99
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posted 11-23-2003 03:41 PM
> There was a head Ford made in the early 90's that I saw at a swap meet once.
> It had the symmetrical intake ports (mirrored, front 2 cylinders to the rear
> 2) and had the center exhausts "siamesed"). Those were the 2nd generation tunnel ports. Basically no interchange with
any other SBF head and required matching/custom everything. They actually
made it into the Motorsport catalog but were never really available. When
they were cancelled, someone bought up the remaining stock from the initial
casting batch. I saw them for sale at one of the Columbus All Ford swapmeets. Dan Jones
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Rustang
Gearhead Posts: 805
From: Clarion PA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 11-24-2003 08:27 AM
Hey Dan, that's where I saw it too
Are you making the trek to Columbus this weekend?
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Mpcoluv
Gearhead Posts: 1333
From: Charlotte NC usa
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 11-24-2003 09:11 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Daniel Jones:
> There was a head Ford made in the early 90's that I saw at a swap meet once.
> It had the symmetrical intake ports (mirrored, front 2 cylinders to the rear
> 2) and had the center exhausts "siamesed"). Those were the 2nd generation tunnel ports. Basically no interchange with
any other SBF head and required matching/custom everything. They actually
made it into the Motorsport catalog but were never really available. When
they were cancelled, someone bought up the remaining stock from the initial
casting batch. I saw them for sale at one of the Columbus All Ford swapmeets. Dan Jones
RDI had the heads and intakes several years ago. I called and got pricing....They wanted around $2k for the castings and 600 for the intake IIRC.
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Daniel Jones
Gearhead Posts: 872
From: St. Louis, MO
Registered: Aug 99
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posted 11-24-2003 03:20 PM
> Hey Dan, that's where I saw it too
> Are you making the trek to Columbus this weekend? Maybe. I'll be in Ohio but I'll probably be working on cars.
If I can get away, I'll probably attend. Dan Jones
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