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Topic: anything to watch out with getting used rear end gears?
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Dubz
Gearhead Posts: 2005
From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 11-12-2003 08:41 PM
 
Anything i should watch for when buying some used gears for my 9"
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ccode67
Gearhead Posts: 3285
From: douglasville,ga,usa
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 11-13-2003 08:35 AM
Main thing to consider is that a NEW set of Motive street gears only costs about $130.
Sure is a lot of work down the drain if the used gears don't set up correctly. Just don't ask how I know this.  ------------------
Stuart
MCA #48902
M&M #1091
67 stang 5 speed, 351W,
Edelbrock Performer RPM package my photo page
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Dubz
Gearhead Posts: 2005
From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 11-13-2003 02:31 PM
but a set for $50 that i'm only counting on lasting a year to a year and a half of street driving.i think half price is a heck of a deal
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ZEATER
Gearhead Posts: 185
From: Mount Pleasant,IA,USA
Registered: Aug 2001
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posted 11-13-2003 05:19 PM
I would think they would either fail immediately or not at all. Too much of a risk for me for 80.00 difference. Then again I just replaced a clutch with 500 miles on it when I re-did my engine. I don't put used clutches or gears in cars.
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Dubz
Gearhead Posts: 2005
From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 11-13-2003 09:17 PM
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Originally posted by ZEATER:
I would think they would either fail immediately or not at all. Too much of a risk for me for 80.00 difference. Then again I just replaced a clutch with 500 miles on it when I re-did my engine. I don't put used clutches or gears in cars.
 not good news to hear. the $80 dif since i am in Canada is over $100, so that's why i thought it would be a big savings
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Glens67
Gearhead Posts: 522
From: Middleton, ID
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 11-13-2003 10:07 PM
Dubz I have change a lot of reargears and used several sets of used gears BUT... I only change used gears when I pull them and check the back lash and pinion gear depth and set them at the same as they were running befor. also STAY AWAY FROM RICHMOND GEARS The last 2 389 8" sets that I bult howled like Banshees. Pulled them and installed Motive Gears and no problem. Richmond denied warrentee.------------------
Glen
67 GT 390
65 Galaxie 500 XL 4 Speed
It was not a Red Light they gave me a Slow Tree
I WAS NOT LATE the Tree was Fast
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Dubz
Gearhead Posts: 2005
From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 11-13-2003 10:31 PM
they are original Ford gears
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ukracer
Gearhead Posts: 192
From: South Wales UK
Registered: Apr 2003
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posted 11-14-2003 03:34 AM
If it helps at all, I have used 'pre-loved' gears in a few cars and never had a problem, despite many thousands of street miles, laps of racetracks and very low 11 second passes in a 3700 lb car. The main thing to do is just give the gears a very close visual inpection, looking for wear, grooves or any sign of the surface hardening having gone. I have even used gears with bits of teeth broken off (not on load bearing areas) with no ill effects. Parts are pricey here in the UK so it helps to be able to use part-worn stuff. Hey, my '69 Mustang racer is built almost entirely out of parts that came off other people's cars (show stuff) and was being chucked. Only real money went into the engine/trans/suspension/brakes/wheels/tyres. Keep it cheap! HTH
Cheers, Martin.
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ccode67
Gearhead Posts: 3285
From: douglasville,ga,usa
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 11-14-2003 07:17 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Glens67:
also STAY AWAY FROM RICHMOND GEARS The last 2 389 8" sets that I bult howled like Banshees. Pulled them and installed Motive Gears and no problem. Richmond denied warrentee.
A set of Richmond 3.50 gears, prperly set up and broken in only lasted 2000 miles before the howling began, by the time I pulled it the gear was shaving metal all through the housing. Warranty was denied. ------------------
Stuart
MCA #48902
M&M #1091
67 stang 5 speed, 351W,
Edelbrock Performer RPM package my photo page
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SteveLaRiviere
Administrator Posts: 48752
From: Saco, Maine
Registered: May 99
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posted 11-14-2003 07:29 AM
My friend ignored my warning and just installed a set of 3.73 Richmond gears in his Camaro. Guess what?Richmond definitely is having problems. ------------------
'70 Mustang Mach 1 - '70 Mustang Convertible - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150
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kid vishus
Gearhead Posts: 7251
From: middle of NC
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 11-14-2003 07:44 AM
Did Holley buyout Richmond too?  Sounds like it with all the problems they are now having. Maybe Zoom bought out Richmond. 
The last set of Richmond gears I bought for my street car was several years ago, and they are still as quiet as the factory gears were, and they have a lot of miles, and a lot of passes down the drag strip on them. My racecar is too loud to tell if the Richmond gears in it howl or not.I do have one set of US Strange gears that set up real nice and never howled. I don't think they are as expensive as Richmond's. But, again, that was several years ago when I bought them.
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SteveLaRiviere
Administrator Posts: 48752
From: Saco, Maine
Registered: May 99
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posted 11-14-2003 07:50 AM
Maybe they discovered the joy and higher profits of China manufacturing?------------------
'70 Mustang Mach 1 - '70 Mustang Convertible - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150
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jsracingbbf
unregistered
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posted 11-14-2003 10:34 AM
I have a set of Richmonds, about 3 years old and a bunch of passes. It's in a 9 inch N case, w spool, and aluminum roller bearing pinion support. Never given me any problems thus far.
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JS
69 Mustang Pro ET Drag
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CometGT1974
Gearhead Posts: 479
From: Asheville, NC USA
Registered: Jan 2002
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posted 11-14-2003 12:44 PM
I put a set of 3.55 Richmonds in an 8", tooth broke off after about 10,000 miles....
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Dubz
Gearhead Posts: 2005
From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 11-14-2003 01:18 PM
So these used original ford gears will probably be as safe as Richmonds or safer
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