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Topic: Sorry more head advice needed
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Fastymz
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From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 10-13-2003 09:42 PM
   
No not about me 
What do you guys think about these heads ?http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2436639752&category=33617 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2437092332&category=33617 ------------------
SCOOP 2.26 60'S
14.9 @ 90.86MPH 65 coupe,351w,C4,Big Boss 429 hood scoop,8" 3.40 TracLoc. My Pics
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kid vishus
Gearhead Posts: 6098
From: middle of NC
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 10-13-2003 09:49 PM
The first set would be an easy bolt on. They would not require any special parts. The second set would more than likely require pistons that would only work for them. I think the first set would be the better choice for a street/strip car on a budget.
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 8826
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 10-13-2003 10:41 PM
If the Jr's sold for their current bid they'd be ok. The TW heads are a little more than you need right now, but you could grow into them. I'd go for the TW's but they'll probably end up costing what new ones do. e-bay isn't a great place to find bargains on hot selling 5.0 heads.  What's your new engine builder think? SteveW
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Fastymz
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posted 10-14-2003 12:57 AM
Steve I have not talked to him again. I still need to get the rest of the motor money first.Then get it pulled and let him look it over. He did tell me he that the RPM were the best heads out of box right now. He said second best would be the World or some mild work to my 69 heads. He would rather have new heads so he wouldn't have to check the used ones over.------------------
SCOOP 2.26 60'S
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rockafellz
Gearhead Posts: 1426
From: San Lorenzo, CA, USA
Registered: Aug 2001
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posted 10-14-2003 02:39 AM
I'm a World Products fan Ron. Here's what i'd do with them. Get them gasket matched at the very least or do it yourself. Then change the 7/16" rocker arm studs for some identical ARP studs. My stud broke remember? I believe those valve springs are good up to .600 or .585 lift. Might want to print out the spec sheet on their website.Remember, for those heads, the absolute ONLY headers you can run on them without major re-bending are the Hooker Supercomps 6111. Check to make sure the 6111 are compatible with 351w in a '65. I have them in my '66 with a 302 and it fits awesome. You're going to trial fit the headers while it's on a motor stand. Put in your spark plugs and wires, then mark where it touches (draw a circle around the wire boot). Remove the headers and take them to a muffler shop or welder. Have the guy re-heat the part of the headers that need clearancing and use a ext.& socket with a mallet to clearance the header slightly. It's easier than it sounds, trust me. If my dad and I were able to do it with the help of you guys and the muffler guys, you can do it in a snap. To me it was harder thinking about it than doing it.  Erik ------------------
1966 Ford Mustang 2+2
Mine - Restomod in Progress 1966 Ford Mustang Coupe
Dad's - Original Unrestored
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kid vishus
Gearhead Posts: 6098
From: middle of NC
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 10-14-2003 08:02 AM
The borrowed motor that is in my car has iron World Products heads on it. I bought Hooker Super Comps for it and they all cleared the plugs fine. KK's dad said it looks like they re-designed them a bit for more clearance after he bought his. He had to clearance a couple of tubes for plug clearance on his headers.Also, just for reference, he has 2 motors. One has the World Prod heads, the other has Edelbrock aluminum heads. The iron headed motor has stock rods, 10.5-1 compression, solid cam etc. The other motor is a stroker 393 with a solid cam, 10.5-1 compression, etc. Same intake (Victor Jr) for both. In KK's father's car, the little motor is not quite a tenth and a half slower than the big motor. He firmly beleives the World Products heads are better than the Edelbrock heads and that's why there isn't anymore of a difference than that. That's his opinion. All I know for sure is, that little motor runs pretty danged good in my car for what it is.
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Fastymz
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From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
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posted 10-14-2003 05:09 PM
Thanks guys I'll watch them both.
Rob thats the type of motor about 10-1 compression a 282 cam and good heads. I'd be happy to get into the 12's.------------------
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RonnieT
Gearhead Posts: 827
From: Port Allen, La. 70767
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 10-14-2003 10:05 PM
I have the Windsor SR on my 351 and do not have the plug clearance issues that i had heard about. These heads are a couple of years old and I think were before WP made changes to the plug location. I am runnihg Headman shorty headers and they fit fine. I burnt a couple of plug wires at first, then bought a set of MSD with the multi angle ends and haven't had a problem since. I don't know how much different the JR's are though.------------------
Ronnie
69 mach1 351W-4V engineless at the time!
70 Torino GT 351C-4v with a "shaker"
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Fastymz
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From: Reno Nv USA MEM#1240
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posted 10-15-2003 12:23 AM
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Originally posted by RonnieT:
I have the Windsor SR on my 351 and do not have the plug clearance issues that i had heard about. These heads are a couple of years old and I think were before WP made changes to the plug location. I am runnihg Headman shorty headers and they fit fine. I burnt a couple of plug wires at first, then bought a set of MSD with the multi angle ends and haven't had a problem since. I don't know how much different the JR's are though.
I thought the plug problems were with the P heads.Not the World heads,I'd hate to have to buy $380 headers too.
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sodi
Gearhead Posts: 197
From: Kenosha Wi. USA
Registered: Dec 2002
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posted 10-15-2003 09:27 PM
You guys are getting me confussed ?? My next step in building my Windsor is the heads. What's going to just bolt on with out all the modifications and plug angles and special headers ? It's going in a 70 Mach. 4sp
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RonnieT
Gearhead Posts: 827
From: Port Allen, La. 70767
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 10-16-2003 09:13 PM
Scoop, The World Products heads have the spark plugs rotated slightly and they had clearance issues with the early heads. I think I read somewhere that they had moved the plugs on the later heads to solve the clearance issues. ------------------
Ronnie
69 mach1 351W-4V engineless at the time!
70 Torino GT 351C-4v with a "shaker"
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