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Topic: The cleveland is in
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anglia
Journeyman Posts: 37
From: wauseon,ohio USA
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted 10-09-2003 08:18 PM
   
put the cleveland in the maverick but after looking at Kids I'am afraid to turn it up! took It out sat nite an ran a 10.66 first pass an 10.60 on the 2nd 10.55 on the 3rd but after looking at kids not sure about turning it up to much more shifting at 7200 feels good
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 9104
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 10-09-2003 08:30 PM
My advice,For what it's worth is: If you're bracket racing don't turn it up. Your goal is to be consistant! Reliability is a big plus too. Just go rounds  SteveW
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kid vishus
Gearhead Posts: 6220
From: middle of NC
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 10-09-2003 08:35 PM
I wouldn't worry about it. I would try to keep it around 7500-7600 though.I'm confident mine blew up because the crank got a crack in it from being run in a broken block. Had it been magnafluxed afterwords, I'm sure the crank would have been caught, and this disaster would have been avoided. If I had the parts to build another one right now, I would not change a thing about the way I ran it. 4200-4500 2 step launches, 7400-7500 shifts.
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jim1320
Gearhead Posts: 198
From: white plains, maryland, usa
Registered: Apr 2003
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posted 10-09-2003 09:47 PM
Sounds great!!!! what is your combination in your motor and trans?????jim1320------------------
1970 Mach 1 393 stroker cleveland best 10.99 @121.50 3550 lb car with exhaust
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67357C
Gearhead Posts: 475
From: Newcastle, WA.
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 10-09-2003 11:31 PM
KV, just curious, what WAS your combo in that mangled mess... compression, cam, intake, etc.? quote:
Originally posted by kid vishus:
I wouldn't worry about it. I would try to keep it around 7500-7600 though.I'm confident mine blew up because the crank got a crack in it from being run in a broken block. Had it been magnafluxed afterwords, I'm sure the crank would have been caught, and this disaster would have been avoided. If I had the parts to build another one right now, I would not change a thing about the way I ran it. 4200-4500 2 step launches, 7400-7500 shifts.
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kid vishus
Gearhead Posts: 6220
From: middle of NC
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 10-10-2003 10:28 AM
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Originally posted by 67357C:
KV, just curious, what WAS your combo in that mangled mess... compression, cam, intake, etc.?
Holley strip dominator intake with a 920 cfm alchy carb, ported open chamber 4v heads, solid roller cam 264/272 @ .050, stock rods with Arias domed pistons for about 11.5-1 compression, stock crank... nothing real exotic. But it ran good till it went POP.
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67357C
Gearhead Posts: 475
From: Newcastle, WA.
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 10-10-2003 10:39 AM
I was just wondering how the heck you got a 10 second pass out of that thing. because my parts list isn't far off from yours. I'll bet that converter makes all the difference in the world. quote:
Originally posted by kid vishus:
Holley strip dominator intake with a 920 cfm alchy carb, ported open chamber 4v heads, solid roller cam 264/272 @ .050, stock rods with Arias domed pistons for about 11.5-1 compression, stock crank... nothing real exotic. But it ran good till it went [b]POP.[/B]
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kid vishus
Gearhead Posts: 6220
From: middle of NC
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 10-10-2003 11:19 AM
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Originally posted by 67357C:
I was just wondering how the heck you got a 10 second pass out of that thing. because my parts list isn't far off from yours. I'll bet that converter makes all the difference in the world.
It ran low 10's all the time, one high 9, and a lot of 1/8 miles passes while in qrtr trim that would have put it inthe 9.80's.
Even my 10-1 2v headed motor ran 10.80's. The car is light, has big tires, and the convertor works exceptiopnally well.
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anglia
Journeyman Posts: 37
From: wauseon,ohio USA
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted 10-10-2003 01:16 PM
my maverick only weighs in at about 2550# I'am running a comp flat tappet trw 12.5 closed 4-v heads ported by valley heads service holley strip dominator 2' headers eagle esp rods ext. balance C-4 with a brake done by JPT 5.14 gear 13-31 slicks
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kid vishus
Gearhead Posts: 6220
From: middle of NC
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 10-10-2003 01:49 PM
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Originally posted by anglia:
my maverick only weighs in at about 2550# I'am running a comp flat tappet trw 12.5 closed 4-v heads ported by valley heads service holley strip dominator 2' headers eagle esp rods ext. balance C-4 with a brake done by JPT 5.14 gear 13-31 slicks
If your convertor will flash about 6000, it should run around 10 flat on gas, and at least 9.80's on alchy. My car weighs 2850 w/driver, has a 4.86 gear, 32x14's, 1 7/8" hedders, a full rollerized c4 with 'brake, and a 8" Coan convertor. My quickest 1/4 mile pass was a 9.97, and that was with a solid flat tappet cam. But my quickest 1/8 mile pass was a 6.18, and that was with the roller. But, with normal weather conditions, they ran the same. Neither is/was faster than the other.
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67357C
Gearhead Posts: 475
From: Newcastle, WA.
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 10-10-2003 04:58 PM
So when I take my converter down to have it recurved, I'm thinking about going from 3500 to 4500. But I don't actually know my car weight (67 coupe, 3,100 lbs?)If you are off on the weight, say your car weighs less, will the converter get more or less stall? quote:
Originally posted by kid vishus:
If your convertor will flash about 6000, it should run around 10 flat on gas, and at least 9.80's on alchy. My car weighs 2850 w/driver, has a 4.86 gear, 32x14's, 1 7/8" hedders, a full rollerized c4 with 'brake, and a 8" Coan convertor. My quickest 1/4 mile pass was a 9.97, and that was with a solid flat tappet cam. But my quickest 1/8 mile pass was a 6.18, and that was with the roller. But, with normal weather conditions, they ran the same. Neither is/was faster than the other.
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kid vishus
Gearhead Posts: 6220
From: middle of NC
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 10-10-2003 05:09 PM
I originally used my convertor in a car that weighed almost 3500 lbs w/driver. There isn't but maybe 200 rpm difference from what it flashed in that car, and what it flashes now. Loose convertors work real well. Depending on what your motor combo is, and what you have for suspension, your may work better closer to 5000 or 5400 than 4500. The looser mine got, the faster the car went.
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anglia
Journeyman Posts: 37
From: wauseon,ohio USA
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted 10-10-2003 05:44 PM
the converter I have is a 8" done by JPT it was built for my boss 302 to stall at 5500 but the four pass in back of the cleveland it seem to work better yet still need to get some seat time to get a litte more relaxed and to get acustom to the new found power of the cleveland!
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67357C
Gearhead Posts: 475
From: Newcastle, WA.
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 10-12-2003 11:29 AM
Of course I would like to have one in the 5500 range, but this is a street car as well. I actually think I'm pushing the envelope at 4500, what you think? quote:
Originally posted by kid vishus:
I originally used my convertor in a car that weighed almost 3500 lbs w/driver. There isn't but maybe 200 rpm difference from what it flashed in that car, and what it flashes now. Loose convertors work real well. Depending on what your motor combo is, and what you have for suspension, your may work better closer to 5000 or 5400 than 4500. The looser mine got, the faster the car went.
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kid vishus
Gearhead Posts: 6220
From: middle of NC
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 10-12-2003 12:19 PM
4500 will be fine on the street if you have a big transmission cooler, and mount a small electric fan on it. However, it is going to slip at hiway speeds. Therefore, I would not recommend any 100 mile trips with it.
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67357C
Gearhead Posts: 475
From: Newcastle, WA.
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 10-12-2003 06:39 PM
Nope it won't make it on the freeway with 4.86:1 gears, only street driving.
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