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Kyle
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From: Sumner, WA
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posted 09-04-2003 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kyle   Click Here to Email Kyle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been doing a lot of reading about 331 and 347 stroker engines and am getting more and more confused about which one I want to build for my Fairlane. It seems that a 331 will rev higher, has a better rod ratio, the piston can have a longer skirt so it won't rock in the bore and the pin isn't in the oil ring. A 347 has 16 extra cubes, which can mean more HP at a lower RPM, and lower RPMs is easier on an engine's parts as far as longevity is concerned.

I have a prepped 302 block, Victor Jr. heads, and Victor Jr. intake that I am going to build this engine for, and I want to shoot for 500hp NA. It will be strictly for strip use. So the question I guess is; is higher RPM or more displacement better?

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Dubz
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posted 09-04-2003 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dubz   Click Here to Email Dubz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
why higher rpms are hard on an engine is piston speed, which also increases with a stroker, so the 347 will be as hard or harder on the engine because of the increased piston speed due to the longer stroke (in the same amount of time for a rotation)

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Rustang
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posted 09-04-2003 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rustang   Click Here to Email Rustang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From what I've heard, oil control can be a problem with the 347.
IMO if you're building a 500hp 347, make sure you go top shelf with a good steel crank and at a minumum go with the sportsman block.

Guys'll tell you the stock block will be fine, and you might get lucky with one and never break it, but there's not alot of meat around those mains and it could catch up to you!

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Dave Gibson
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posted 09-04-2003 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Gibson   Click Here to Email Dave Gibson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Get a Mexican 302 block to build into a stroker.

Dave & Terri

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Kyle
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posted 09-05-2003 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kyle   Click Here to Email Kyle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is there a performance difference between a 347 with a 5.315" rod vs. a 5.4" rod? The 5.315 makes it so the pin isn't in the bottom oil ring.

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67357C
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posted 09-06-2003 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 67357C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Proper terminology>>>Tensile loads v. Cyclical loads
I'm in agreement, Cyclical loads are much more damaging.

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Originally posted by Kyle:
I have been doing a lot of reading about 331 and 347 stroker engines and am getting more and more confused about which one I want to build for my Fairlane. It seems that a 331 will rev higher, has a better rod ratio, the piston can have a longer skirt so it won't rock in the bore and the pin isn't in the oil ring. A 347 has 16 extra cubes, which can mean more HP at a lower RPM, and lower RPMs is easier on an engine's parts as far as longevity is concerned.

I have a prepped 302 block, Victor Jr. heads, and Victor Jr. intake that I am going to build this engine for, and I want to shoot for 500hp NA. It will be strictly for strip use. So the question I guess is; is higher RPM or more displacement better?


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jkilroy
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posted 09-08-2003 08:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jkilroy   Click Here to Email jkilroy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This question is ALWAYS easy to answer. When choosing between two builds, you ALWAYS pick the BIGGER one.

SIZE DOES MATTER!

Anyone that tells you otherwise either has a small motor or dates someone that does!

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CometGT1974
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posted 09-08-2003 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CometGT1974   Click Here to Email CometGT1974     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been running a 347 for the past couple of years....it was a street motor w/ a hydraulic roller and I have now switched to a solid roller and a BIG shot of nitrous. The motor has never smoked or used oil, even running synthetic!!

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