|
Author
|
Topic: super stock 351 cleveland ?
|
ironbullet
Journeyman Posts: 39
From: wytheville va usa
Registered: May 2003
|
posted 08-12-2003 07:58 PM
   
I've got an opportunity to buy a boss 351 , and I've been wondering if it would be practical to build it for s/s competition . Is the hp factor very high ? of all the 351c powered muscle cars which would be most favorable to build under existing hp factors, etc ? I don't know this stuff but I have been told that some live and breath by these factors and such. It appears to me that the factory 11.7 comp on a b351 would be a + and the 4300d would be a - . What are your thoughts?
IP: Logged |
kid vishus
Gearhead Posts: 6405
From: middle of NC
Registered: Oct 2000
|
posted 08-12-2003 08:17 PM
All it takes is mega $$$ to be competitive.  I don't think any cleveland powered stocker or super stocker is going to be anywhere close to cheap to build in a competitive form. Guys have been blasting the indexes for those powerplants for a long time.
IP: Logged |
denny
Journeyman Posts: 80
From: Northfield NH USA
Registered: Jul 2000
|
posted 08-13-2003 01:20 AM
I think the 72 H.o or regular 72 are more favorable combos for SS Alex should have way more info to help you with. I know all 3 combos are excellent in stock. The only guy I know who tried the Boss and H.O in stock prefers the H.O combo All 3 combo's have held the national records quite often. The Boss will be stick only as well not that I think thats a bad thing but some do.
Are you planning on running as a traditional SS or a GT car?------------------
D French
67 427 Fairlane(A/SA) 73 Mustang 351c
IP: Logged |
Bakken101
Gearhead Posts: 164
From: Paradise, ca. USA
Registered: Jul 2003
|
posted 08-13-2003 03:14 AM
Ya know they didnt make too many of them Boss'.
I wouldnt modify it but try to restore it.
you have the chance to own a rare pony, It be a shame if the world lost another Boss because a unfortunate mishap caused it to meet the wall.
Im not saying thats gunna happen, but accidents do happen.My 2 cents
IP: Logged |
JCQuinn@work
Gearhead Posts: 899
From: Lakewood, CO, USA
Registered: Jun 2001
|
posted 08-13-2003 10:07 AM
As a general rule, the more hi performance a motor is in stock form the better it is for Stock eliminator rather than Super Stock.The Super Stock rules allowing any manifold, any valve train, and porting favor engines that are restricted in those areas in stock form. Engines like the Boss 351 are pretty hot from the factory and do not gain as much as the HO version. I would run it in Stock eliminator. These cars are made to race, go forth and enjoy. John
IP: Logged |
ironbullet
Journeyman Posts: 39
From: wytheville va usa
Registered: May 2003
|
posted 08-13-2003 11:11 AM
stock eliminator sounds cool , I'm just talking right now cause I'm building a completely different project right now. But if I can come up with the money to buy the boss ,I will , and I'll race it one way or another . I'm not gonna race the original dizx stuff , I'll stick a d2ae-ca 4 bolt block in it and like that. Anybody happen to know how fast a stock eliminator boss will go if done up right ? read that $$$
IP: Logged |
denny
Journeyman Posts: 80
From: Northfield NH USA
Registered: Jul 2000
|
posted 08-13-2003 11:20 AM
Rob Youngblood was the only one I know of who was super fast with the Boss out of Idaho he ran some 10.40's 10.50's
Dean Cook out of Rhode Island is awesome with the 72 H.O combo 10.60's pretty regulary Many time E/S and F/S record holder. Youngbloods car has been for sale a few times not sure if it ever sold or not. I heard he almost wrecked going over backwards on the launch a few years back------------------
D French
67 427 Fairlane(A/SA) 73 Mustang 351c
IP: Logged |
ironbullet
Journeyman Posts: 39
From: wytheville va usa
Registered: May 2003
|
posted 08-13-2003 11:43 AM
mercy me !! 10.5 sounds like alot of fun especially when you can brag that it's a stock eliminator! Can you at least knock the ridges out of the bowl or is it no porting period? It galls me to stick cleveland heads on anything without knocking those ridges out ! If I can't do that I guess I'll have to flow a bunch of plain old d1ae cc heads to see which is best ? There's no reason I have to run real boss heads is there ? anyway I can't tell that the boss heads are anything but cut d1ae's anyway , the chambers are suppose to be a little smaller but I can mill any old set . About the 4 speed only option , can I make a bangbox out of it ?
IP: Logged |
denny
Journeyman Posts: 80
From: Northfield NH USA
Registered: Jul 2000
|
posted 08-13-2003 12:15 PM
The Boos combo is stick only and you must run the correct Boss heads. You can use any stock Cleveland block. As for doing anything to the heads legally no mods other than valve job and replace 50% of the seats. In the real world though things are fixed to work properly. If you do decide to run stock get an enginr built by someone who builds engine for stock not just by a performance machine shop. If you want an auto trans the regular 71-72 351 4v motor is a good combo that will run low 11's in G/SA Tex Miller is a good example Also you don't have to run the autolite carb you get a holley 780 on the Boss HO and I think the reg. 71-72 4v motors. YOu must go by the NHRA specs not ford specs. There are alot of parts allowed on all makes that might not have rollrd down the assembly line in detroit------------------
D French
67 427 Fairlane(A/SA) 73 Mustang 351c
IP: Logged |
Mustangsandmore Forums
