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Topic: How soon to use Royal purple after rebuild
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ZEATER
Gearhead Posts: 177
From: Mount Pleasant,IA,USA
Registered: Aug 2001
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posted 07-30-2003 11:22 AM
   
I have about 300 miles on a rebuild with my 428. I have used conventional 10W-40 valvoline for these miles. I have heard various opinions on when to change to synthetic.I want to use royal purple but am unsure of when to change and what weight to use. Any suggestions would be great.
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jkilroy
Gearhead Posts: 1808
From: Vicksburg, MS
Registered: Dec 99
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posted 07-30-2003 01:50 PM
I am sure there are many more informed opinions than mine, but I am unsure that the break in on conventional rule still applies. I know that many automobiles leave the factory with synthetic, some even void the warranty if you use anything but. I am sure that 99% of this depends on the ring set and wall finish. But like I said, others with more experience will comment and I look forward to the discussion.------------------
Jay Kilroy
68' Fastback GT 390
"No such thing as a cam thats too big"
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V8 Thumper
Gearhead Posts: 4638
From: Phoenix, Arizona
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 07-30-2003 04:52 PM
I waited 1500 miles until going full synthetic. A 30w non-detergent break-in {change oil and filter}, 10-40 for 500 miles {change oil and filter}, then another 1000, then it's Royal Purple time  I'd think a minimum 500-750 miles to allow everything to seat in, but that's just a guess. I've got close to 2500 miles on it now... the RP is worth every penny  ------------------
1965 GT coupe, 333ci aluminum headed/solid cammed stroker, four speed, 3.70:1 9" All Blue Oval, no blue bottle
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johnmustang
Gearhead Posts: 6061
From: British Columbia , Canada
Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 07-30-2003 05:28 PM
TODDPlease explain to me all the benefits of using royal purple in my car. Mildly built 289, good runner with approximately 3000 miles on it. Is it worth using it on my car, how often should I change it, what are the benefits and draw backs of using this in my 289. TIA JOHN ------------------
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 26811
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 07-30-2003 08:04 PM
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Originally posted by ZEATER:
I have about 300 miles on a rebuild with my 428. I have used conventional 10W-40 valvoline for these miles. I have heard various opinions on when to change to synthetic.I want to use royal purple but am unsure of when to change and what weight to use. Any suggestions would be great.
It's ready now.------------------
Alex Denysenko
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V8 Thumper
Gearhead Posts: 4638
From: Phoenix, Arizona
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 07-30-2003 08:19 PM
John, I too was skeptical. But I thought, "I'll give it a try..."WOW! How does 10-15 degrees lower operating temps and a kick-you-in-the-a** power increase grab you? My motor is not a full-tilt racing engine, but it's by no means 'mild' The power increase and temp decrease are simply the result of less friction; the stuff is that effecient. For multi-viscosity 'street' formulas, Royal Purple claims that you can run it 12,000 miles 
I'll take their word for it... I'll not run it nearly that long. The point is, the oil's lubrication/durability properties do not break down or deteriorate as petroleum based oils do. The filter traps contaminants so you change the filter, not the oil. Concidering I don't put but 2000-2500 miles a year on my car, a $50 oil change is cheap insurance. Alex put it to me this way: 'How much is your motor worth?' ------------------
1965 GT coupe, 333ci aluminum headed/solid cammed stroker, four speed, 3.70:1 9" All Blue Oval, no blue bottle
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johnmustang
Gearhead Posts: 6061
From: British Columbia , Canada
Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 07-30-2003 08:30 PM
TODD,Where can I buy the stuff and what weight royal purple should I use for my car. As usual Alex is correct, I wonder if he ever gets tired of being right, that is why I always listen to his advice. JOHN ------------------
65 2+2 FASTBACK
87 TAURUS WAGON
98 F150 XLT TRITON V8 4.6, 4 WHEEL DRIVE
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V8 Thumper
Gearhead Posts: 4638
From: Phoenix, Arizona
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 07-30-2003 08:48 PM
Moneymaker Racing is a distributor of Royal Purple products!
I'd let Alex recomend a grade for your motor in your climate  ------------------
1965 GT coupe, 333ci aluminum headed/solid cammed stroker, four speed, 3.70:1 9" All Blue Oval, no blue bottle
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johnmustang
Gearhead Posts: 6061
From: British Columbia , Canada
Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 07-30-2003 08:53 PM
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Originally posted by V8 Thumper:
Moneymaker Racing is a distributor of Royal Purple products!
I'd let Alex recomend a grade for your motor in your climate
It`s a long way for the stuff to come from Alex to me here in Canada, but you are right I will email him and find out which weight I should use. I did find a supplier here on vancouver Island and he will give it to me for $9.48 per liter ( quart ), sounds like a good price to me, but never having used it before I don,t know. What is your choice for oil filter? JOHN ------------------
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V8 Thumper
Gearhead Posts: 4638
From: Phoenix, Arizona
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 07-30-2003 08:57 PM
I run Baldwin filters, oil filter p/n B-2 ------------------
1965 GT coupe, 333ci aluminum headed/solid cammed stroker, four speed, 3.70:1 9" All Blue Oval, no blue bottle
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capri man
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From: doerun, ga.
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 07-30-2003 09:19 PM
what i do with synthetic oil in my daily driver is, i run it 5000 miles and change the filter and add a quart. then run it 5000 more miles and change all of it and start over. has worked great so far and the cost is about the same as regular oil.------------------
mike r
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johnmustang
Gearhead Posts: 6061
From: British Columbia , Canada
Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 07-30-2003 10:45 PM
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Originally posted by capri man:
what i do with synthetic oil in my daily driver is, i run it 5000 miles and change the filter and add a quart. then run it 5000 more miles and change all of it and start over. has worked great so far and the cost is about the same as regular oil.
Do you run the oil through some kind of external screen or filter after you drain it and before you re-use it? I will probably only put about 2000 miles per year on the car. JOHN ------------------
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98 F150 XLT TRITON V8 4.6, 4 WHEEL DRIVE
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johnmustang
Gearhead Posts: 6061
From: British Columbia , Canada
Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 07-30-2003 10:47 PM
ZEATER, Sorry, not trying to take over your thread, just very interested in it and also getting the info I need to use the product properly.
JOHN
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65 2+2 FASTBACK
87 TAURUS WAGON
98 F150 XLT TRITON V8 4.6, 4 WHEEL DRIVE
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 9476
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 07-30-2003 11:06 PM
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Originally posted by johnmustang:
Do you run the oil through some kind of external screen or filter after you drain it and before you re-use it? I will probably only put about 2000 miles per year on the car.JOHN
John, On a driver you leave the oil in the pan, change the filter and add a quart that you lost in the filter. No screening required. For your 2,000/year I'd just change it every year. SteveW
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