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Dubz
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posted 06-28-2003 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dubz   Click Here to Email Dubz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
allright, i got everything hooked up now, intake carb, throttle linkage, the whole 9 yards. However i ran into a snag, when i am sitting in the car and hit the gas (not driving, just idling) it stumbles real bad, like maybe a full second delay until it kicks in and the rpms jump. Would this be a problem with the secondaries coming in too soon, should i just not try to goose it in neutral, or what is my problem

Thanks for the help again guys/girls

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N266fords
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posted 06-28-2003 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for N266fords   Click Here to Email N266fords     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it could be your accelerater pump is not working right. its job is to supply fuel until the fuel/carb can take over.. if its a dp you could have to much fuel..Bruce

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kid vishus
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posted 06-28-2003 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kid vishus   Click Here to Email kid vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It either needs bigger squirters, or a different accelerator pump cams. It has a "hole" in the fuel window that causes the bog.

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smgaud
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posted 06-29-2003 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for smgaud   Click Here to Email smgaud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What carb is this and what motor do you have?

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Dubz
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posted 06-29-2003 03:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dubz   Click Here to Email Dubz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it is a Holley 670 street avenger on a 74 351W with an rpm air gap and a 1" 4 hole carb spacer

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Hemikiller
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posted 06-29-2003 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hemikiller   Click Here to Email Hemikiller     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You probably need a bigger accelerator pump shooter, try a 31 or 35.

Street Avenger, tuned out of the box...yeah right....

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bluestreek
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posted 06-29-2003 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluestreek   Click Here to Email bluestreek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You might try to increase your timing advance a few degrees at a time and see if that helps before blaming it on the carb. If the bog doesn't go away, you might have an early 670 Street Avenger that were found to have an off idle bog problem. If so, you should contact Holley.

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Dubz
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posted 06-29-2003 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dubz   Click Here to Email Dubz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i just purchased the carb, was it a while ago that the carbs had problems?

how would i find out when the carb was built

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Dubz
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posted 06-30-2003 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dubz   Click Here to Email Dubz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
anyone?

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Dubz
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posted 07-03-2003 09:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dubz   Click Here to Email Dubz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
would bad gas have anything to do with the stumbling??

i removed the spark plugs today and they are COVERED with carbon deposits, the engine hasn't been hot in a long time, just and idle here and there in the garage while testing...

any other suggestions

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rockafellz
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posted 07-03-2003 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rockafellz   Click Here to Email rockafellz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wait, wait... this may be something as simple as adjusting the primary accelerator pump. Start the car, open the choke, look into the primaries, tip the throttle rod with your right hand, look for gas to come out of the squirters the INSTANT the throttle is tipped (revved). If no gas comes out, that is your problem (bog, stumble, etc.). Adjust your pump by adjusting the spring loaded nut and bolt.

Erik

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N266fords
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posted 07-04-2003 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for N266fords   Click Here to Email N266fords     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thats what i said already

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Dubz
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posted 07-06-2003 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dubz   Click Here to Email Dubz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
as soon as i have the slightest pressure on the throttle i get an instant squirt, so it's not that. I pulled the plugs to do a compression check, and the plugs were black with carbon deposits, so it seems that it's rich or the ignition is sucking

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