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Fordwiser
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posted 06-02-2003 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fordwiser   Click Here to Email Fordwiser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alex, do you have the Vasco Jet (spelling) imput shafts in your JPT c-4s or the hardened shafts?
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Moneymaker
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posted 06-03-2003 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Stock HD FoMoCo my friend.
If you don't have or make a legitimate 500+ ft lbs of torque, you do not need the trick expensive shaft.

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Fordwiser
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posted 06-03-2003 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fordwiser   Click Here to Email Fordwiser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's what I would of thought too, but in my second round at the WFC6 as I shifted into either second or high (can't really remember as I was concentraiting on running down the slower car) the engine free wheeled and hit the rev limiter and I coasted to a stop with a lot of grinding noises. I got around to pulling the tranny this last weekend and found the imput shaft twisted off and stuck in the converter, the stater support is also busted off the pump and stuck in the converter. Bob at JPT says I may be border line of needing the better shaft. They had me box up the converter and other broken parts and send them up to Eaton Rapids, said they'd get me back staightened out. :-) I think it was just a fluke, maybe a bad shaft, but I think I'll spring for the better shaft just so I don't have to go through it again. overkill!
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kid vishus
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posted 06-04-2003 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kid vishus   Click Here to Email kid vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Roger, I would run the hardened shaft in your car. I have one in mine. It may be overkill, but I hate breaking parts.

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Moneymaker
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posted 06-04-2003 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been fortunate. I have only broken one and that was when I rolled over a sprag. My own fault for trying to continue to race that way.
I regularly see the BBF stockers and superstockers twist off stock shafts. But....they all make well in excess of 500 ft lbs of torque.

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Fordwiser
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posted 06-04-2003 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fordwiser   Click Here to Email Fordwiser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I may be wrong, but I was under the impression that the one I broke was hardened. Where it twisted off, the outer about 3/16 of steel sure looked a lot different then the center. Alex,is that what the factory Heavy Duty is?
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posted 06-05-2003 08:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All of the "steel" inputs that I have seen are broached.
That is where the splines are are tapered at the shaft middle ends.
The HD Ford one looks like a stock unit only a bith thicker and the splines are longer.

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Alex Denysenko
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First SS/MA in the TENS!
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Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
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popeye
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posted 06-06-2003 01:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popeye   Click Here to Email popeye     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alex,what cars or trucks do these HD input shafts come in or would a guy have to get one from a ford dealer,do you have a pt number? thanks,popeye

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Moneymaker
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posted 06-06-2003 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am pretty certain that FoMoCO has discontinued them, but I'll check.
70-74 E-350 was the usage.

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Alex Denysenko
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NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,&'03
First SS/MA in the TENS!
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Professional Manwhore
The Barry of BarrysGrrl

Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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popeye
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posted 06-07-2003 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popeye   Click Here to Email popeye     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks,popeye

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