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Topic: Is a windage tray and crank scraper worth the money?
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BLstangin
Gearhead Posts: 856
From: St. James, MN
Registered: Apr 2002
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posted 06-02-2003 12:47 AM
 
I know a crank scraper and windage tray don't cost a lot, but are they work the time and effort or not? If they are which windage tray is better, a screen type or a solid metal one?------------------
1970 coupe restored with the help of my dad. 302 with 600 holley, aluminum intake, headers, pertonix ignitor 2 with matched coil, lakewood bellhousing, 4-speed toploader, and 2.79 open 8" rear. Soon to be 9" 3.50 trac-lok
1986 f-150, 5.0, factory towing package with original c-6 trans
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MDF99
Gearhead Posts: 234
From: Hamilton, Ohio, USA
Registered: May 2001
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posted 06-02-2003 08:17 AM
For a street/strip car like mine, my engine builder advised me to go with a solid windage tray and no scraper. His reasoning was that screen can weaken and scraper tabs can break off, sending metal through the motor. Don't forget to cut a hole in the windage tray for oil dipstick.
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V8 Thumper
Gearhead Posts: 4777
From: Phoenix, Arizona
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 06-02-2003 08:57 AM
I put a Ford Motorsport windage tray (sheet metal) under my rotating assembly because it's an inexpensive bolt-in. Unless you're spinning it to the moon sustained, I doubt you'll ever 'feel' the results of a scraper; especially concidering all the time and effort that goes into making one. .060 max between the scraper and rotating assembly, that takes some doing to fit, grind, fit grind, fit, grind, crap, I went too far, start over, fit, grind, blah blah blah blah...------------------
1965 GT coupe, 333ci aluminum headed/solid cammed stroker, four speed, 3.70:1 9" All Blue Oval, no blue bottle
http://mustangsandmore.50megs.com/V8Thumper.html
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BLstangin
Gearhead Posts: 856
From: St. James, MN
Registered: Apr 2002
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posted 06-02-2003 11:03 AM
O.k. which windage tray would you guys suggest? This one: http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=MIL%2D32210or this one: http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=FMS%2DM6687A302 Will these windage trays bolt right up using the stock bolts or arp main bolts, or do they need special studs? Will either one of these or both fit in my stock 302 oil pan? It is a front sump pan. How much of a horsepower gain do you think that I would see by using a windage tray? The motor should put out right around 335 horsepower. ------------------
1970 coupe restored with the help of my dad. 302 with 600 holley, aluminum intake, headers, pertonix ignitor 2 with matched coil, lakewood bellhousing, 4-speed toploader, and 2.79 open 8" rear. Soon to be 9" 3.50 trac-lok
1986 f-150, 5.0, factory towing package with original c-6 trans [This message has been edited by BLstangin (edited 06-02-2003).]
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V8 Thumper
Gearhead Posts: 4777
From: Phoenix, Arizona
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 06-02-2003 05:37 PM
I don't know about the Milodon tray, but the FMS part is a complete kit with main bolts embossed with mounting pedestals, drilled and tapped for the supplied attaching hardware. It's literaly a complete kit, ready to install (that's the one I've got). You're likely to see 8-10 horsepower from a windage tray, and shouldn't have any clearance problems with a stock oil pan.
Note: If building a stroker, the tray will needed to be shimmed down to clear the rod bolts. No biggie, but you may then be into clearance issues with a stock pan  ------------------
1965 GT coupe, 333ci aluminum headed/solid cammed stroker, four speed, 3.70:1 9" All Blue Oval, no blue bottle
http://mustangsandmore.50megs.com/V8Thumper.html
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BLstangin
Gearhead Posts: 856
From: St. James, MN
Registered: Apr 2002
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posted 06-02-2003 07:33 PM
Hey v8 thumper is that kit complete with all the main bolts needed for the whole engine or just the four used to mount it?------------------
1970 coupe restored with the help of my dad. 302 with 600 holley, aluminum intake, headers, pertonix ignitor 2 with matched coil, lakewood bellhousing, 4-speed toploader, and 2.79 open 8" rear. Soon to be 9" 3.50 trac-lok
1986 f-150, 5.0, factory towing package with original c-6 trans
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V8 Thumper
Gearhead Posts: 4777
From: Phoenix, Arizona
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 06-02-2003 09:28 PM
Just the 4 required for the tray install------------------
1965 GT coupe, 333ci aluminum headed/solid cammed stroker, four speed, 3.70:1 9" All Blue Oval, no blue bottle
http://mustangsandmore.50megs.com/V8Thumper.html
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