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Ronnie Carlisle
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From: Marietta, Ga. USA
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posted 04-30-2003 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ronnie Carlisle   Click Here to Email Ronnie Carlisle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I built a 393 with ultra bell and glide. I am having trouble with the starter dis-engaging. The starter drive is staying engaged to the flywheel. On the bench the starter works fine.I have not started the engine yet but, if I did and the engine starts, will the bendix retract or eat a starter drive and/or a flywheel?

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steve'66
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posted 04-30-2003 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The bendix should be retracted with no power to the starter. Are you saying the starter gear engages the starter ring without 12v to the starter? If so, it's the wrong starter.

The stock one for a '66 289 automatic fits my UltraBell/JW Wheel combo on a 351w stroker fine.

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Toronado3800
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posted 04-30-2003 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Toronado3800     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hate it whenever I have to spend the time to shim a starter. Seems like every couple months I need to reshim it then I have no experience with the stroker fords though.

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Ronnie Carlisle
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posted 05-01-2003 06:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ronnie Carlisle   Click Here to Email Ronnie Carlisle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Steve, With 12v the bendix is engaged but, the bendix stays engage when the switch is return to the "on" position. I have to use a screwdriver with mininuim pressure to manually retract the starterdrive. These are all new components. My question is, when the engine starts, will the starterdrive retract or will the gear destroyed?

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Moneymaker
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posted 05-01-2003 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The gear must retract when 12v is removed from the solenoid. If not it WILL stay engaged and destroy the starter drive gear.
I see this happen almost once at every event we attend. Always with an aftermarket bell housing adapter of some kind, and aftermarket starter.
We loan out or sell one of our spare starters 9-10 times a year at the track to racers with GM transmissions behind FoMoCo's.

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Moneymaker
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posted 05-01-2003 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The gear must retract when 12v is removed from the solenoid. If not it WILL stay engaged and destroy the starter drive gear.
I see this happen almost once at every event we attend. Always with an aftermarket bell housing adapter of some kind, and aftermarket starter.
We loan out or sell one of our spare starters 9-10 times a year at the track to racers with GM transmissions behind FoMoCo's.

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Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator

NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,&'03
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Professional Manwhore
The Barry of BarrysGrrl

Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
www.moneymakerracing.com

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