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Topic: question for steve'66 on rear shock brand
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popeye
Gearhead Posts: 222
From: Dixon, IA USA
Registered: Dec 2002
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posted 04-12-2003 01:35 AM
   
Steve I like to keep up with the latest rear suspension updates on your stang.My first car was a '65 coupe with a 289 3 speed boy did beat the crap out of that poor thing.Wish I had it back,I sure would do things differently.Enough war stories for now.My questions are...what brand of shock do you plan to use and will they be in the stock location,at the stock angle or are there any tricks up your sleeve in this area ?Sure would like to see some pics.Thanks popeye------------------
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n2oMike
Gearhead Posts: 2419
From: Spencer, WV
Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 04-12-2003 09:10 AM
The most popular shock for drag racing that will fit in place of the stockers is the Rancho 9000 series. They have a knob near the bottom of the unit with five adjustment settings. I believe the part number that will fit the rear of a mustang is #9204. (It's actually a truck listing)I believe Steve runs these as well, and will hopefully confirm it for you. I'm 99% sure that's the right number, but maybe someone can confirm it for sure. Good Luck! ------------------
Mike Burch
66 mustang real street
302 4-speed 289 heads
10.63 @ 129.3
http://www.geocities.com/carbedstangs/cmml_mburch.html
http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/healey/367
http://www.mustangworks.com/cgi-bin/moi-display.cgi?220 [This message has been edited by n2oMike (edited 04-12-2003).]
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 25883
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 04-12-2003 11:10 AM
The Rancho truck shock is indeed what Steve W has on his car.
It is far from being "THE" most popular and is actually more of a Mustang cult secret.
All it is in reality as Mikes says is an adjustable off road truck shock that can limit some of the rebound.
The C&E and Summit shocks are probably the most popular just because of the ease of availability and cheap cost.
(you get what you pay for)
The best "bolt on" performance rear shock for a Mustang is the QA-1 HAL fully adjustable Stocker Star series.
We sell them but they are over twice the cost of the Ranchos. Again, you get what you pay for.
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 8826
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 04-12-2003 02:55 PM
Yep,Ranchos for now anyway. We'll see how the glass mono leafs and cal-trac bars work with the Ranchos in a couple weeks. I'm sure the QA1's are better.  SteveW
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popeye
Gearhead Posts: 222
From: Dixon, IA USA
Registered: Dec 2002
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posted 04-12-2003 07:39 PM
Thanks Mike,Alex,and Steve,for the response.I have a pair of Rancho 9000's on the rear of the '69 FB.The 60's are not as consistant as they could be.Most of the time i get a lot of rear body seperation,tried different settings on the Cal Tracs as well as the Ranchos.We raced a few events at Byron NMRA,some box/no box and test and tune.The best setting on the bars were with NO preload and I think a 3 or 4 setting on the shocks.Set up this way body sep.was at a minimum and we made it into the semi finals then the next outing this setting was'nt worth darn.The car has ran a best of 11.39 in the quarter.but only twice.The car weighs 2920# w o driver and 3100 w/driver.I would to ,some day, try a set of the fiberglass mono springs.Do you guys think they would solve my consistencey problems?btw the rear leaf springs were new in 1997 per J.Calverts suggestion, for my engine size and car specs ------------------
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n2oMike
Gearhead Posts: 2419
From: Spencer, WV
Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 04-12-2003 10:43 PM
Body seperation isn't really that much of a 'bad' thing. Sure, on a super stocker you're spending a little energy in lifting the car that could be used in making it move forward... but if you are short on traction, that body seperation is absorbing some of the torque from the engine and keeping the tires hooked up.If I stiffen the rear on my car up too much... sure it doesn't seperate as much, but the whole rear end bounces as it spins of the starting line. Softer might be better... Of course, every car is different. (mine's a 4-speed) Good Luck! ------------------
Mike Burch
66 mustang real street
302 4-speed 289 heads
10.63 @ 129.3
http://www.geocities.com/carbedstangs/cmml_mburch.html
http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/healey/367
http://www.mustangworks.com/cgi-bin/moi-display.cgi?220
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 25883
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 04-12-2003 11:38 PM
quote:
Originally posted by n2oMike:
Body seperation isn't really that much of a 'bad' thing. Softer might be better... Of course, every car is different. (mine's a 4-speed) Good Luck!
Body separation is all wasted motion.
Simple physics. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. The more reactions you have the more energy is wasted.
I don't care if it's a sueprstock car or a Fuel Funny car!
Show me a car with a lot of body separation and I'll show you a car I can make 60 foot better by getting rid of it. EVERY TIME!
No brag, just fact!  ------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,&'03
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Professional Manwhore
The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
www.moneymakerracing.com
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