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Dave_C
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From: Gadsden, Al
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posted 04-01-2003 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave_C   Click Here to Email Dave_C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Take a look, was just browsing and saw these:
http://www.racingjunk.com/viewclassifiedad.jsp?id=59183

I've never seen any quite like those before. I don't need them, but someone may be interested. They have the diagonal J302 head bolt pattern that some of the higher flowing aftermarket heads have (Trick Flow R, etc). As far as I know there are no off-the-shelf headers for an early Mustang with the diagonal bolt pattern heads. Not a bad price if the will actually flow. They look like a sort of semi-tri Y. The Y's are almost at the collector, so it might not hurt the flow too bad. Who knows?

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Rory McNeil
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posted 04-01-2003 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rory McNeil   Click Here to Email Rory McNeil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, they appear to be a standard 4 tube header, although I don`t really like the way that the tubes are squeezed into the collectors, with such a short transition area.

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rockafellz
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posted 04-01-2003 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rockafellz   Click Here to Email rockafellz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Those are some long a$$ primaries!!

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 04-01-2003 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Reminds me of the old V8 Pinto headers.

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BlueMule
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posted 04-01-2003 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueMule   Click Here to Email BlueMule     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Almost look like FE headers for a '66 Fairlane.

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Moneymaker
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posted 04-02-2003 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, all of the earliest 4 tube SBF headers were made that way. Jardine, Stahl, Cyclone, Red's, Hedman etc. designs from the early 60's were very similar. In 1965 Hooker introduced the "all out the back" SBF headers for Mustangs and the rest followed suit.
I never liked the 1-2 tubes going under the suspension.

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stoker
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posted 04-02-2003 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stoker   Click Here to Email stoker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i like the long primarys and they look equal length!!i would bet if you were dyno testing a motor making 450+ ponies these would smoke hooker #6111 supercomp thruout powerband.even if hookers were 1-3/4 primary

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n2oMike
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posted 04-02-2003 07:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for n2oMike   Click Here to Email n2oMike     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by stoker:
i like the long primarys and they look equal length!!i would bet if you were dyno testing a motor making 450+ ponies these would smoke hooker #6111 supercomp thruout powerband.even if hookers were 1-3/4 primary

Equal Length???? The collectors look short and cheap as well. If I were JBA, I'd be embarrassed to sell em'.

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stoker
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posted 04-04-2003 04:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stoker   Click Here to Email stoker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well,i am thinking streetable power,where collector length doesnt play big role.the most common mistake people make when choosing a long tube header for street is to big primary and collector diameter.in my opinion all shelf headers for vintage mustangs have primary lengths that are to short.

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