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Topic: Allright WHICH HOLLEY???
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JoeD
Journeyman Posts: 50
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Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 02-27-2003 04:16 PM
  
You guys are the racers, I will become one. Tell me which Holley to use on my car. Right now it's got a 625 Carter that runs great. NEVER floods, ALWAYS starts, PULLS past 6500, NO PROBLEMS in almost ten years. Previously I had two BRAND NEW Holley 1850's and almost burned my car to the ground. I tried everything to make them work, even though they were both brand new carbs. Constant flooding was the main problem and nothing I tried would fix it. So, out of the blue, I bought the Carter and it pulled harder right away without any jetting. I swore I'd never buy another Holley, I literally threw both of them in the garbage.
So now I'm gonna race. 65 Mustang. 289 with stock small chamber heads ported. Performer RPM. TRW flat tops. Comp Cams 282S. Headers.4 speed will have 4.56 rear. Weight has to be around 2700 at most.
FOR RACING...what Holley carb???Thanks,
Joe (no relation to Jimmy or Billy Carter)
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69 Sportsroof
Gearhead Posts: 1202
From: Valley, Alabama, USA
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 02-27-2003 04:32 PM
I'm partial to Holley's but if your carter is pulling past 6500, why change it?I'd go with a Holley 650 dp with open 1 inch spacer. I could be wrong but a 289 with stock heads, no matter how much you port them, will never need more cfm than that.
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 19704
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 02-27-2003 04:39 PM
Holley 700 DP 0-4778 with a 4 hole 1 inch spacer.------------------
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RADRIDE
Gearhead Posts: 240
From: Va.Beach, Va.
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 02-27-2003 04:39 PM
I just removed a Carter 750 off my 65.289 w/AFR-185,Hooker super-comps,RPM air-gap and put on a Mighty Demon 750.Seems as tho it revs faster.Its been raining for 3days so I dont know how it will drive,but it seems fine.Car is mostly used as open track& auto-x with a fair amount of street time.I had a Holley 1850 on a Cutlass and it was junk,swore me off Holleys also.I have 10.5CR and 4.11 locker rear w/ T-5 tranny.The Carter was fine til new heads.
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JoeD
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Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 02-27-2003 04:46 PM
Alex,I'll do it. My carb works for what I do now but I know racing is a different game.
If you read this here's one more question. I still run a dual-point autolite. I know it has to go. I have a brand-new Unilite mechanical dist. in a box. Is it worth using or what should I get? Joe
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 19704
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 02-27-2003 04:47 PM
Use the Unilite. Make sure you have a high output coil.
Follow the instructions in the box and lock the timing in at 35 degrees total.------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
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The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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69 Sportsroof
Gearhead Posts: 1202
From: Valley, Alabama, USA
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 02-27-2003 04:48 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
Holley 700 DP 0-4778 with a 4 hole 1 inch spacer.
Wouldn't a 4 hole spacer hender top end flow? 
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 19704
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 02-27-2003 04:53 PM
Not with those small heads. An open spacer will kill the carb signal.------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
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The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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mustangboy
Gearhead Posts: 652
From: Ont, Canada
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 02-27-2003 04:58 PM
I also had problems with my holley flooding.Brand new carb,float was always sticking.Local speed shop said always run an inline filter.I said I never had any problems with the stock carb and no filter.He said trust me run a filter,so I did and I have never had any more trouble.When I switched the carb from my truck to my mustang I had trouble again until I put on an inline filter.------------------
1968 mustang j-code sprint.13.69@101 306cu.in, stock ported heads,weiand exellerator,650 holley DP,hedman hedders,comp 292 Magnum cam,4-speed,8 inch 4.11 detroit locker
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69 Sportsroof
Gearhead Posts: 1202
From: Valley, Alabama, USA
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 02-27-2003 06:05 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
Not with those small heads. An open spacer will kill the carb signal.
Learn something new everyday.....
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Fstln69
Gearhead Posts: 325
From: Westmont,il
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 02-27-2003 06:23 PM
The 4 hole spacer would that apply on my combo too?------------------
69 fairlane 351w 12.94@103mph before M&M.. after??
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fordfan
Gearhead Posts: 2871
From: Walla Walla, Wa, USA
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 02-27-2003 08:53 PM
come to think of it... the Holley I just took off my truck was an 1850 of some sort...  . What a POS that thing was! (It never ran right as long as I've owned it.
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 19704
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 02-27-2003 09:28 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Fstln69:
The 4 hole spacer would that apply on my combo too?
Yes. ------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,&'03
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The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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Fstln69
Gearhead Posts: 325
From: Westmont,il
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 02-27-2003 09:38 PM
Alex,a 4 hole spacer over no spacer whats the gain?i,ve read many articles stating that the small fords like a spacer and i've yet to try one
Dennis------------------
69 fairlane 351w 12.94@103mph before M&M.. after??
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 19704
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 02-27-2003 09:45 PM
It strengthens the low speed carb signal and helps store a plemum charge. Engine pulls it more on demand. You won't see that flat spot or almost bog with a 4 hole spacer.------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,&'03
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Professional Manwhore
The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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Fstln69
Gearhead Posts: 325
From: Westmont,il
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 02-27-2003 10:03 PM
Ok maybe that was what i needed because when i ran the car it seemed like when the convertor would hit the motor would sit at 4 grand then start its climb.I put a 50cc pump on the rear of the 750 and a cam that gave me a longer shot and it seemed better on the street (trying it with the slicks and judging how long the marks were)but haven't got it back to the track to see
Btw Alex,you have any i only have open spacers?
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69 fairlane 351w 12.94@103mph before M&M.. after??
always in search of more HP and faster ET'S Fstln69 Pics Page [This message has been edited by Fstln69 (edited 02-27-2003).]
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 19704
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 02-27-2003 10:07 PM
But of course.  ------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,&'03
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Professional Manwhore
The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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Dubz
Gearhead Posts: 443
From: Manitoba Canada
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 02-28-2003 12:53 AM
So the 4 hole spacer is the general spacer for any sbf??? What brand do you carry alex?------------------
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