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stinger
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From: mn
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posted 02-26-2003 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stinger   Click Here to Email stinger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Who is running what on their cars? Aluminum or Cast Iron. What brand, etc! Whats the best bang for your buck.

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kid vishus
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posted 02-26-2003 10:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kid vishus   Click Here to Email kid vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, me thinks this question is aimed more at the windsor guys, but, I feel compelled to answer anyways.

I am running 1973 iron open chamber 4v cleveland heads. 310 cfm on the intakes and 229 on the exhuast with my port work (see = not professional), pretty good bang for the buck.

Now, I'll step aside and let the guys answer that this was really intended for.

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D&S Induction Systems
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posted 02-26-2003 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for D&S Induction Systems   Click Here to Email D&S Induction Systems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What kind of an engine are you buiding, and what is it's intended use? How much power do you want to make?

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two89w
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posted 02-27-2003 02:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for two89w   Click Here to Email two89w     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
this is strictly a "afr" site but i run windsor snr alloys

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stroker man
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posted 02-27-2003 06:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stroker man   Click Here to Email stroker man     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
roush 200 cast iron fully ported, nice heads for my 408w.68cc chambers for lower comp ratio.

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Moneymaker
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posted 02-27-2003 10:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like Edelbrock aluminum heads and The R-200's for iron.
Personally we can't use aftermarket heads on our race cars as long as we continue to run NHRA/IHRA classes.
We get more out of our C5AE-B heads then a lot of the aftermarket stuff out there.

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rockafellz
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posted 02-27-2003 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rockafellz   Click Here to Email rockafellz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WP Windsor Jr. 180 on mine with 10.6:1 compression.

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CometGT1974
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posted 02-27-2003 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CometGT1974   Click Here to Email CometGT1974     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Victor Jr. aluminum heads, w/ lots of portwork....

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Just Strokin
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posted 02-27-2003 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Just Strokin   Click Here to Email Just Strokin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Soon to be running the new and improved Super Cobra Jet heads on my 501 BBF....

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67Coupster
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posted 02-27-2003 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 67Coupster   Click Here to Email 67Coupster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let me chime in for the AFR group. I run the AFR 185's on a 393W. Been very happy with them so far. Comparable to the Vic Jr's for a little bit more.

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RADRIDE
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posted 02-27-2003 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RADRIDE   Click Here to Email RADRIDE     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also run the AFR-185 on a 289 bored .040,and probably lost a little low end,but a 347 stroker is on my X-mas list.Well it is the only thing on list and these heads will match any of the others.

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Bloose
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posted 02-27-2003 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bloose   Click Here to Email Bloose     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
E7 home ported heads on a '68 289 +.030 block.

Dreaming of Performer RPM's. There's always next year!

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Dad Vishus
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posted 02-27-2003 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dad Vishus   Click Here to Email Dad Vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm sure no one can imagine this, but I too would have to vote for the heads that KV suggested. 2words: Cleve Land!

For factory castings, there is no other head that comes close, IMHO.

KVs car is a 2900 pound ride,with driver. It has a factory crank, factory rods, ported 4V open chamber heads and has run 6.18 in the 1/8 mile. That should work out to 9.80s in the 1/4. I defy anyone to show me another small block with factory cast heads that runs that hard. In fact, I think you'd have trouble finding a big block similarly equipped that runs that good.

I am painfully aware that Cleveland stuff is getting hard to find, but they are still out there. There are almost always some heads on ebay, some reasonably priced, some not. A pair of stock bare 4V heads should be around 500 or so, and with screw in studs, good valves and springs and mild porting will still be as cheap as any aftermarket head, and will still outperform the low end units.

For my money, bang for the buck is spelled Cleveland.

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D&S Induction Systems
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posted 02-27-2003 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for D&S Induction Systems   Click Here to Email D&S Induction Systems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What, no Trick Flow fanz here?

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V8 Thumper
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posted 02-27-2003 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by D&S Induction Systems:
What, no Trick Flow fanz here?



Yup, right here

To be honest, the next motor I build won't have TFS heads. They do flow lots of atmosphere , but talk about a PITA. Custom length pushrods, piston flycutting, and 'unique' head gaskets required for the install on an early block sure seemed like an awful lot of engineering (on my part) for a streeter. They do move lots of air right out of the box, and maintain a very wide powerband through some slick design engeneering, but you've got to earn it

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clevelandstyle
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posted 02-27-2003 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for clevelandstyle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dad Vishus:
I too would have to vote for the heads that KV suggested. 2words: Cleve Land!

For factory castings, there is no other head that comes close, IMHO.

For my money, bang for the buck is spelled Cleveland.


Me too!

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steve'66
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posted 02-27-2003 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just gasket matched Vic Jr's here.

But, there's always Victor's for the next step.
Edelbrock's got you covered! From the RPM's thru the Victors. No need for that twisted stuff.

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2bav8
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posted 02-27-2003 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2bav8   Click Here to Email 2bav8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AFR 185s here.

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jsracingbbf
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posted 02-28-2003 01:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jsracingbbf   Click Here to Email jsracingbbf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Old worn out Ford Motorsport Aluminum SCJ's , a good bit of port work. A little welding was necessary when I got them.
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