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V8 Thumper
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posted 02-24-2003 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...for fuel pump shut off. They're on most (if not all) late model fuelie cars/trucks, anyone use or concider one for an old Pony?

I just finished installing a new 140 gph/18 psi electric pump and regulator... http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=28579
1/2" fuel line too
Tesiting the pump, that thing moves BIG fuel

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Moneymaker
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posted 02-24-2003 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, I just try to avoid hitting anything.

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V8 Thumper
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posted 02-24-2003 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good advice LOL!
Not required for tech inspection then?

Insulated tube clamps... is there a minimum number of hangers/clamps for the fuel line to pass tech?

The install turned out real clean I routed the line up the passenger side, up the trans tunnel to the regulator, mounted on the firewall directly behind the carb. Looks trick

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MAV
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posted 02-24-2003 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MAV   Click Here to Email MAV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hate to tell you this, but I,m pretty sure you wont pass tech with the fuel line routed in the trans tunnel because in the event of a driveshaft/Ujoint failure it could rupture the fuel line.
Also I know the NHRA rules once said that NO part of the fuel system may be mounted on the firewall.
Alex,Kid visious...anyone wanna comment on if Im right about this?

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CometGT1974
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posted 02-25-2003 08:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CometGT1974   Click Here to Email CometGT1974     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure about the rules and regulations but I am using the same exact fuel pump/regulator to run my nitrous system. It worked well all last season. It's just aeromotive stuff without the anodizing and engraving.

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Glens67
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posted 02-25-2003 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glens67   Click Here to Email Glens67     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't have my rule book with me, but no part of the fuel system can be mounted on the fire wall. You can call the NHRA tech line at 626) 250-2485 and as MAV stated The Trans tunnel is not the desired location for fuel lines. Shelby rerouted the fuel line from the trans tunnel to the drivers side pinch seam for some reason....
I am going to increase the fule line size from 5/16" to 3/8" SS tubing and will route the line as per Shelby's

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Moneymaker
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posted 02-25-2003 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MAV:
I hate to tell you this, but I,m pretty sure you wont pass tech with the fuel line routed in the trans tunnel because in the event of a driveshaft/Ujoint failure it could rupture the fuel line.
Also I know the NHRA rules once said that NO part of the fuel system may be mounted on the firewall.
Alex,Kid visious...anyone wanna comment on if Im right about this?


Welllllll, it all depends.

Technically Mav is 100% correct. The NHRA and IHRA rule book specifically stipulates that the fuel line CANNOT be routed through the trans tunnel. NHRA/IHRA tech inspectors at national and divisional events really scrutenize this.
At the local level, I do not see this rule enforced much as long as the lines are all metal or braided.
Especially in the street classes. They seem to focus more on "pesonal" saftey items such as helment and belts.
I would take the "don't ask don't tell" approach as I see this style of routing a lot.
I wouldn't have done it that way, but I've been doing this a long time.

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Just Strokin
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posted 02-25-2003 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Just Strokin   Click Here to Email Just Strokin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not sure how up-to-date these rules are on this website, but here is the NHRA rules for quick reference...

http://members.tripod.com/MY5LTR/NHRArules.html

See section 1.5 fuel system of the general regulations.

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V8 Thumper
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posted 02-25-2003 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks guys for all the info/input. I'll never race this car at the 'national' level, just local stuff. The aluminum line follows the framerails and subframe connector all the way up, angles up the firewall and dosen't actually 'enter' the trans tunnel. I was primarily concerned with keeping it plenty far away from the headers and driveshaft. I can always move it... what the hell. Live and learn

I'll shoot a pic or two, and (try to) post them

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Ryan Wilke
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posted 02-25-2003 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ryan Wilke   Click Here to Email Ryan Wilke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the book also says something similar about having brake lines in the trans tunnel........?

I've seen some folks run a brake line or fuel line thru a 2nd piece of tubing when crossing over the tunnel area, like conduit, to increase the level of protection.

If you use aluminum or copper for fuel line tubing, be sure to protect it where it can rub on any edges, since both are pretty soft materials.

Although it's pricey, this is the reason why some folks run the entire length in braided stainless steel - 'cause it is so tuff.

Ryan

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Moneymaker
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posted 02-25-2003 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by V8 Thumper:
Thanks guys for all the info/input. I'll never race this car at the 'national' level, just local stuff. The aluminum line follows the framerails and subframe connector all the way up, angles up the firewall and dosen't actually 'enter' the trans tunnel. I was primarily concerned with keeping it plenty far away from the headers and driveshaft. I can always move it... what the hell. Live and learn

I'll shoot a pic or two, and (try to) post them


OK Todd, you are fine.

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