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68F100
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posted 02-15-2003 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68F100   Click Here to Email 68F100     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just for giggles...what was the most HP per CI engine(rated) ever built by Ford?


And more giggles...what is the most HP/CI engine you have ever seen/heard of?

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svt522
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posted 02-16-2003 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for svt522   Click Here to Email svt522     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My twin brother has a 1986 Comp Prep SVO Mustang. It's one of 83 built that year. They only built a total of 123 during the three years they produced the SVO! It's like a Cobra R and has no power accessories at all! No radio, power windows, A/C etc. It puts out 210 hp from a Turbo 2.3L. Double that displacement and you end up with 4.6. A 4.6 would have to put out 420 horsepower to match horsepower per cubic inch!

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Moneymaker
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posted 02-16-2003 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fuel injected Can Am Boss 494 was rated at 810 HP.

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bifs66
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posted 02-16-2003 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bifs66   Click Here to Email bifs66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I couldn't answer the Ford related first question, but the current Formula one engines are probably the most HP per cubic inch for normally aspirated engines (3.0 liters and around 850 HP). For supercharged engines, I suppose it is the Top Fuel guys.

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Trailer_Trash
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posted 02-16-2003 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Trailer_Trash   Click Here to Email Trailer_Trash     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
Fuel injected Can Am Boss 494 was rated at 810 HP.

WOW!!!!

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Trailer_Trash
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posted 02-16-2003 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Trailer_Trash   Click Here to Email Trailer_Trash     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
how many liters is that engine alex?

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Moneymaker
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posted 02-16-2003 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
8.1

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indyphil
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posted 02-16-2003 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for indyphil   Click Here to Email indyphil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
top fuel is in a different category due to the Nitro fuel.

Formula one runs pump gas, their power comes from extreme revs (20,000RPM on the latest stuff)

on Pump gas with no Power adders 100hp per liter is considered pretty good for small engines. Honda make a car called the S2000 which makes 235hp from a 2.0 liter engine naturally aspirated. 4 cycle motorbikes make good power, but their engines are smaller. Larger engines struggle to get the revs so they come out making less per cubic inch. While power is important, if like the honda it all comes in a narrow range of revs, it makes for an awful drive, always shifting gears. thats why they have a 6 speed close ratio gearbox, some people like that but not me

With boost the limit is very high. In the 1950's BRM made a formula one V16 1.5 liter engine that was boosted to the moon and made 600hp. The idea was to maximise the piston area for the displacement (hence 16 cylinders and a very big bore/stroke ratio). Boost was applied as much as the engine would take mechanically, compression ratio was lowered to avoid detonation even though they used the highest octane gas they can get their hands on.

Nitro fuel is handy because it carries its own oxygen with it, making it easier to cram more energy into the cylinder. this makes it almost unfair to compare with even high octane pump gas. ALMOST

I read that a top fuel car will melt its spark plugs away before it even makes it to the finish line, running on detonation alone for the second half of the track. Not really apples to apples but fun to watch!

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Moneymaker
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posted 02-16-2003 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IN the spirit of this thread, if I had to pin point or nail down a specific engine produced solely by FoMoCo it would have to be the 255 CID DOHC Indy car effort.
It produced almost 3 HP per cubic inch using basically "stock block" technology and normally aspirated.

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Alex Denysenko
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68F100
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posted 02-16-2003 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68F100   Click Here to Email 68F100     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great replies

Alex, I take it that the INDY 255 is nothing like the 255 dog that went into early fox bodies?

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Moneymaker
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posted 02-16-2003 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uh.....No Joe, other than the dimentions, they shared nothing in common.

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Alex Denysenko
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NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,&'03
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Professional Manwhore
The Barry of BarrysGrrl

Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
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Just Strokin
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posted 02-17-2003 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Just Strokin   Click Here to Email Just Strokin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The highest HP engine available to the average Joe was the 427 SOHC in a licensed/titled car. The 2x4 was rated around 615hp. Seems like there were 2 cars that received the 2x4 SOHC from the factory and maybe one single 4. Seems like the engine codes were D and L, I forget which was the single 4 and which was the 2x4.

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Moneymaker
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posted 02-17-2003 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
FoMoCo never put an SOHC in a car that was sold to the public and could be licensed legaly. All were installed by outside vendors for racing purposes.
Engines were sold over the counter for racing.

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Alex Denysenko
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NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
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NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,&'03
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Professional Manwhore
The Barry of BarrysGrrl

Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
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