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Hans olsson
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posted 02-12-2003 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hans olsson   Click Here to Email Hans olsson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What do you think of Mobil1 synt Atf,or Dexron3? The reason for asking is because Atf type F is harder to find now.
Hans Olsson.

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Moneymaker
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posted 02-12-2003 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Royal Purple RTF comming soon Hans.

Otherwise DO NOT use any Dexron or synthetic in your C-4.
Stick with type F.
You should still be able to get Motorcraft type F at a Ford dealer in Sweden.

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Hans olsson
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posted 02-12-2003 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hans olsson   Click Here to Email Hans olsson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Alex!

Hans

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capri man
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posted 02-12-2003 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capri man   Click Here to Email capri man     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
alex, i know nothing about trans fluids. in fact i know nothing about automatic transmissions. the guy that built my c4 told me to use dextron in it. it is a performance trans. does that make a difference? here is his site.
www.godleytrans.com

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Moneymaker
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posted 02-12-2003 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes Mike. Dexron will make it slip and shift sloppy.
It will go quicker with type F.

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Alex Denysenko
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steve'66
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posted 02-12-2003 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hans,

I've been running Mobil 1 syn in the '66's c-4. Changed it at 130+ passes and it's got about 200 on it now and everything works fine. Until RP comes out with some syn atf, it will work.

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CometGT1974
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posted 02-12-2003 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CometGT1974   Click Here to Email CometGT1974     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been running red line racing ATF and have had really good results....kinda expen$ive though!!

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Hans olsson
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posted 02-13-2003 06:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hans olsson   Click Here to Email Hans olsson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks guys!
Hans

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cobravenom71
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posted 02-13-2003 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cobravenom71   Click Here to Email cobravenom71     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Type 'F' will definately give you a firmer shift, which is actually better for the trans.
'Dexron/Mercon' is a frictinally modified fluid that produces softer, cushier shifts for regular passenger type vehicles. That comfort comes at the expense of extra internal friction, which creates more heat and therefore accelerated transmission wear.
Under normal circumstances, 'Dex/Merc' and the Synthetics will work fine, but the type-'F' is better suited for performance applications.

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 02-13-2003 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rumor has it that B&M's 'TrickShift' performance ATF is merely Type F ATF.

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capri man
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posted 02-13-2003 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for capri man   Click Here to Email capri man     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
actually i have been running thetron/mercon in my c4. it was freshened last fall. has maybe 50 passes on it now. would it help me at this point to change over to type f? speaking mostly from a consistancy point of view.

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Moneymaker
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posted 02-13-2003 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes.

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Alex Denysenko
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timjk
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posted 02-13-2003 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for timjk   Click Here to Email timjk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was also told back in auto trade school that Trick Shift fluid was basically type F.
Another note. When I rebuilt transmissions at a Ford dealer, the new friction material in the kits was made for Dexron fluid, regardless of the year, and included a tag for the dipstick.

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D&S Induction Systems
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posted 02-13-2003 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for D&S Induction Systems   Click Here to Email D&S Induction Systems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I run type-F in all my Fords. Even in my 93' T-bird with a AOD.

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Moneymaker
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posted 02-14-2003 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by D&S Induction Systems:
I run type-F in all my Fords. Even in my 93' T-bird with a AOD.

Me too!
Exception being our crew cab with the E40DE.

Long story as to why, but suffice it to say FoMoCo engineering and JPT both advised against type "F" in those monsters.

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Alex Denysenko
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D&S Induction Systems
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posted 02-14-2003 01:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for D&S Induction Systems   Click Here to Email D&S Induction Systems     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Huh, There is brobibly some reason thay have, but I haven't had any problems to date.

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Just Strokin
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posted 02-14-2003 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Just Strokin   Click Here to Email Just Strokin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ford also recommends NOT using the Mercon V (synthetic or partial synthetic) in the E4OD's prior to like 1999

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Moneymaker
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posted 02-14-2003 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Too many electronic (s) solenoids that can be contaminated by friction material.

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Alex Denysenko
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