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Dubz
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posted 01-30-2003 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dubz   Click Here to Email Dubz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
allright, well i have decided that the 2.75 have to go....so in a 3700 lb car, with a 300+ hp motor, and 10" wide mickeys, for a street driven car with loads of torque, which gears would you suggest??

also does the manufacturer of the gears really make a difference??? ie summit gears are cheaper, is that for a reason?

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posted 01-30-2003 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
3.89 or so.
Foriegn made 3rd world metal = cheap quality = cheap price.
It's your rear that's on the line.

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Dubz
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posted 01-30-2003 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dubz   Click Here to Email Dubz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well in the summit cataloge (my price guide cause i have no other guide other than jegs)

Richmond Gear
3.89 are $161.95
Summit
all ratios $129.99

so is it really gonna be that cheaper of material, or are you paying for the Richmond name more than anything??

and when a ring and pinion and lists splines that is the pinion stem spline correct?

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steve'66
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posted 01-31-2003 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dubz,

The Summit gears will be fine for your application.
I had dinner with my ProMod buddy last Tuesday and I asked him about the rear in the 6.50s/218mph promod car. Yep Ford 9", 44 splined full floater, but still a 9". 706 c.i. on three stages on nitrous, pretty cool except for the early 'vette look alike carbon fiber body.

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Dubz
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posted 01-31-2003 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dubz   Click Here to Email Dubz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
very sweet!!

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MrWesson22
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posted 01-31-2003 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MrWesson22   Click Here to Email MrWesson22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And Steve, just think the pro 5.0 cars are going that fast now on smallblocks (not trying to take anything away from your buddy).

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mustang68mustangs
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posted 02-01-2003 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mustang68mustangs   Click Here to Email mustang68mustangs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whatever you do DON'T buy the Summit gears!! I bought a set and the pinion was not machined to the correct size. The bearing was not able to be pressed on.(no I didnt have the wrong bearing) I sent them back and bought a set of Richmonds.
Buy a good set of name brand gears and you will be fine.In this case you get what you pay for.

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Dubz
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posted 02-01-2003 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dubz   Click Here to Email Dubz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What other gear companies should i look at??

is Richmond an allright gear company, i've been told that sometimes thier gears are "loud"

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 02-01-2003 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A couple of our members have mentioned loudness and premature wear with Richmond gears.

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posted 02-01-2003 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dubz   Click Here to Email Dubz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
which gears should i purchase then?

and do you deal with a gear manufacturer alex?

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Bloose
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posted 02-01-2003 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bloose   Click Here to Email Bloose     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Richmond 4.62's in my '68 lane that I bought used and they very well. They don't seem to be noisy at all. I have heard people complain about them too (for Jeep applications) but I tried them and they seem fine.

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posted 02-01-2003 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mustang68mustangs   Click Here to Email mustang68mustangs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Richmonds and havent had any problems yet with noise.Of course its hard to hear over the 3.5" exhaust.I would stick with Strange,U.S.gear,Richmond.
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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 02-01-2003 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I found this:

https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Forum12/HTML/003839.html

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Dubz
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posted 02-01-2003 08:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dubz   Click Here to Email Dubz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so most likely if there is noise with the richmonds it is because they were set up incorrectly....
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Bloose
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posted 02-01-2003 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bloose   Click Here to Email Bloose     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't know if I'd say it's just a setup issue. I'm no expert with gears, but I did my Jeep and now my Ford. Both are working perfectly. If Richmonds were junk and they all went bad in 1000 miles, they would be out of business by now. But, that don't mean they have great QC or customer service either. Unless you can get a good deal on a used set as I did I think I would steer clear. Maybe others had set up issues, maybe not. I think instead of doing the job twice and buying the gears twice (the more expensive set the second time anyway) I'd spend a few more $$ up front for something else. Better safe than sorry I'd say.

For me I wasn't sure I'd like 4.62's in my car so didn't want to spend a bunch of $$$. So I got some used at about 1/2 price. Seemed like a good deal and I'm happy with it.

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Dubz
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posted 02-01-2003 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dubz   Click Here to Email Dubz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i was told that you should never buy used gears...this some sort of myth?

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steve'66
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posted 02-01-2003 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Melissa's gears are Richmonds and they have been very good. They have to be set up a little different than normal. Just as long as your installer can read the instructions they'll be fine.

As far as used gears, they need to be set up as they were in the last case. In other words they are worn and need to continue wearing from where they started before you transplant them into another housing.

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Dubz
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posted 02-01-2003 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dubz   Click Here to Email Dubz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what if i had this??

http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=3702&prmenbr=361

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RADRIDE
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posted 02-02-2003 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RADRIDE   Click Here to Email RADRIDE     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I havnt heard anything about Precision gears I have 4.11 locker with no problems on a very warm 289.Price is about the same as Richmond.

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tomslo
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posted 02-03-2003 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tomslo   Click Here to Email tomslo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I used Precision gears in my 91 F150 and had absolutely no problems with them.

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