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Topic: Help with combo
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Fstln69
Gearhead Posts: 355
From: Westmont,il
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 01-28-2003 06:12 PM
   
First off hey guys glad to be part of this forum,ok now for the car
69 fairlane 351w 040,lunati/ross flattops,stock 69 heads cleaned up no real porting,lunati 555 523 bracket cam,erson roller rockers,victor intake,750dp,38 degrees timing,10"tci convertor,c4 manual body,410 gear,10"x26 tire,cal-tracs,full exhaust out to bumper 2 1/2" with flowmasters, car weighs 3310 no driver 3610 with
best run was 12.94@103 1.75 60ft
motor pulls good till 3rd gear then feels like it just kind of goes through the motions
question is what will pick it up i'd like to run 12 flat.
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Moneymaker
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From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 01-28-2003 06:18 PM
Welcome to M&M  Well no offence, but the driver is adding a lot of weight. That's three tenths right there. 
Since replacing him is not an option let's see what we can do.
Based on your MPH vs ET, I think that you could use a bit more gear and a different converter.
You weigh about the same as our Capri, and MPH close to the same give or take 1-2.
Yet, you have more cam, more heads and about 50 more cubes. That does not compute.
You have the HP, you're just not efficiantly appying it. ------------------
Alex Denysenko
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The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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Fstln69
Gearhead Posts: 355
From: Westmont,il
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 01-28-2003 06:37 PM
well the driver is an option alex...lol
it is actually my wifes car so once she gets in it will drop some.The convertor is a tci race piece it flashes about 3800.As far as the gear goes it only goes through around 5400 and thats shifting at 6000,i tried shifting higher cus the power band on the cam is to 6800 but it just didn't pull up there
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Fstln69
Gearhead Posts: 355
From: Westmont,il
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 01-28-2003 06:40 PM
one other thing i wanted to ask about,seems that i have to adjust the rockers a full turn after zero lash to get them half way quiet, could this account for something?
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Moneymaker
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From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 01-28-2003 06:58 PM
Yes, your rocker geometry sounds off. You will probably need some longer push rods to compensate.
First thing that I would do is get some 4.57 gears, longer push rods (you need to science that out) and set the timing locked at 35 degrees.------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,&'03
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Professional Manwhore
The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
www.moneymakerracing.com
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Moneymaker
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From: Lyons, IL, USA
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posted 01-28-2003 06:59 PM
Hey! I just noticed that you are from Westmont!!!! That's only about 5 miles from me.
What color is your car and where do you race it most? ------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,&'03
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Professional Manwhore
The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
www.moneymakerracing.com
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 7226
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 01-28-2003 08:03 PM
Welcome to M&M!Most of the street cars I see (as opposed to Stock Class cars) need about 110 mph for 12 flats. Alex's advice is 100% accurate, but more h.p. wouldn't hurt. Can you try running it w/o that full Flowmaster exhaust system? Also those iron heads are a big mismatch with the Victor intake! A performer rpm intake and heads would do it for you. SteveW [This message has been edited by steve'66 (edited 01-28-2003).]
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steve'66
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posted 01-28-2003 08:04 PM
Hit the wrong button....  [This message has been edited by steve'66 (edited 01-28-2003).]
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Moneymaker
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From: Lyons, IL, USA
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posted 01-28-2003 08:12 PM
I was getting to the open exhaust part Steve.
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Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,&'03
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Professional Manwhore
The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
www.moneymakerracing.com
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Fstln69
Gearhead Posts: 355
From: Westmont,il
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 01-28-2003 11:33 PM
ok first,its a silver fairlane with rod lights on it alex.I used to live in summit cruised down 47th quite a bit and 1st ave once in awhile.I know about where your at buddy of mine lived on pulaski(actually we talked at 41 a few years ago when i was racing another car but i digress).Yeah i never tried opening up the headers yet it stayed parked last year.As far as the intake i would have thought it was going to kill the btm end but it has great response and leaves hard,on street tires it destroys the bfg's
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Fstln69
Gearhead Posts: 355
From: Westmont,il
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 01-28-2003 11:50 PM
also addressing the pushrod length i didn't assemble this motor and the guy that did(never will again)supposedly figured all that out and ordered pushrods accordingly.It doesn't suprise me that they could be off.I know you don't want to type in the whole explaination of how to check it so i will just ask this..at some point (no hurry)i'd like to talk to you on the phone or stop by and discuss this futher.
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Moneymaker
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From: Lyons, IL, USA
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posted 01-29-2003 01:31 AM
Call anytime. ------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,&'03
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Professional Manwhore
The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
www.moneymakerracing.com
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Fstln69
Gearhead Posts: 355
From: Westmont,il
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 01-29-2003 04:30 PM
Thanks for your time on the phone Alex,another question i had,i am currently
running a 750dp after i do what we talked about,(headers rockers etc.)do you see any gain in going to a 800dp.Friend of mine sold me one awhile back and said that with the sbf they have a small booster charge so a bigger carb would. thoughts??
Dennis
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Moneymaker
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From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 01-29-2003 05:20 PM
750 to 800 both work well on 350 ish size engines. With big heads you'd see more with an 800. I'd wait until you get the rest sorted out Dennis.------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,&'03
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Professional Manwhore
The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
www.moneymakerracing.com
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Fstln69
Gearhead Posts: 355
From: Westmont,il
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 01-29-2003 05:24 PM
Yeah i know i can't wait to get it back in the garage here to work on it now im pumped up a little more now,just need to sell that damn "disposeaboo" taking up wifeys spot in the garage
God i hate these winters------------------
69 fairlane 351w
always in search of more HP
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 7226
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 01-29-2003 09:59 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Fstln69:
God i hate these winters
Hey!
What's wrong with winter? I was nice, partly cloudy and 60+ degrees here today. Too bad I was in the shop all day. SteveW
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Moneymaker
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From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 01-29-2003 11:03 PM
I'm going to ship you some snow Steve.  ------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,&'03
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Professional Manwhore
The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
www.moneymakerracing.com
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 7226
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 01-29-2003 11:19 PM
OK,My address is: Steve Westerman
333 Easy Street
Sonoma, CA 95476
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