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Topic: police 429?
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2BAD6568s Gearhead Posts: 109 From: South Point, Ohio, USA Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 01-22-2003 09:22 PM
How much is a 429 police interceptor with a c6 on the motor worth? a guy said he had two and i should make him a offer. they are still in the cars.
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steve'66 Gearhead Posts: 6522 From: Sonoma,CA,USA Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 01-22-2003 09:37 PM
$500
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mustangboy Gearhead Posts: 652 From: Ont, Canada Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 01-23-2003 12:31 AM
I believe the heads are fairly rare and desirable on these motors.I'd snap them up if they're reasonable.
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Dave_C Gearhead Posts: 744 From: Gadsden, Al Registered: Aug 99
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posted 01-23-2003 12:52 AM
Just make sure they are really police interceptors. I have seen some guys try to claim a basic 429 was a PI.The PI's will have a casting # of D2OE-AB on the heads. Later, David Cole
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Dubz Gearhead Posts: 443 From: Manitoba Canada Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 01-23-2003 02:54 AM
one of those would be nice ------------------ 1974 Gran Torino, 351W 1970 Mustang Grande, 289 Just a young buck
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2BAD6568s Gearhead Posts: 109 From: South Point, Ohio, USA Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 01-23-2003 09:14 AM
Are these motors a 4 bolt main or two and how much horsepower were they rated for? what would be the #'s on the block? I looked on ebay and the exhaust manifolds were at around $250. And would the c6 be the heavy duty one?
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Just Strokin Gearhead Posts: 754 From: Tuscaloosa, Alabama Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 01-23-2003 09:58 AM
Most likely 2 bolt mains. Even some CJ's came with 2bolt mains, but all the SCJ's came with 4 bolt mains.The best 429/460 blocks are the D0VE-A and the D1VE-AA. These two were used in the CJ and SCJ's and other cars also, but they were 4 bolts for the SCJ's. You also have the C9AE block that was the B9 block. Susposively if you have one of the D0VE-A or the D1VE-AA with the A in the square on the front of the block down by oil filter area, it has the B9 bulk heads. ------------------ Larry No fast Fords at this time but one fine cruising 96 F350 CC DRW Power Strokin diesel. And one rusty 64 Fairlane nick-named the Rust Bucket....And sometimes called the Money Pit... The sounds of a brain dropping into gear..... "Buzzzzzz.......Click"
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mustangboy Gearhead Posts: 652 From: Ont, Canada Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 01-23-2003 10:59 AM
I'm pretty sure the only thing special about the police interceptors is the heads.They have the CJ sized valves with normal size ports and hardened valve seats for unleaded gas.Head part numbers are D2OE-AA and D2OE-AB .They make a nice bolt on head for a healthy big block.
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Just Strokin Gearhead Posts: 754 From: Tuscaloosa, Alabama Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 01-23-2003 11:15 AM
The intake valve was actually smaller than the CJ/SCJ intake...the PI had 2.19 intake valves verses 2.245 for the CJ/SCJ.------------------ Larry No fast Fords at this time but one fine cruising 96 F350 CC DRW Power Strokin diesel. And one rusty 64 Fairlane nick-named the Rust Bucket....And sometimes called the Money Pit... The sounds of a brain dropping into gear..... "Buzzzzzz.......Click"
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kid vishus Gearhead Posts: 4538 From: middle of NC Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 01-23-2003 11:25 AM
Port weren't the same size as a normal head either, they were bigger, but not as big as the CJ heads. We had PI heads on a 460 in our old "tow van". We got regular intake gaskets for it one time, they covered up part of the port, and regular exhaust gaskets didnt fit either, they were too small. They are really an "in between" head. That old van had plenty of power, probably almost as much as the power stroke my father has now, but it got terrible mileage. 5 mpg pulling the trailer was real common.
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Mike_R Gearhead Posts: 151 From: Indianapolis, IN 46237 Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 01-23-2003 12:42 PM
If it's actually a 429 police interceptor it had alot of good parts. My brothers and I used to buy these engines from junkyars back in the early 1980's. I've seen about a dozen of the 429 and 460 PI's.The 429 PI's would generally be a 1972 engine with an intake manifold identical to a 429 CJ except it had an odd spreadbore pattern for a ford carb that was not a quadrajet. The heads are D2OE-AB and have ports halway between CJ and standard size, with 2.19" and 1.725" valves. They also have guide plates, hardened pushrods, and CJ style rockers. The pistons are forged TRW flat tops with a large eyebrow. Basically same pistons and rods as a SCJ. The exhaust manifolds are similar to CJ/SCJ but with D2 part numbers. They have aluminum finned valve covers similar to a CJ/SCJ. The blocks could be 2 bolt or 4 bolt main with a part number of D0VE or D1VE. Just judging from what I've seen your chances are about 50/50 of getting a 4 bolt. You don't know until you pull the pan. The oil pan is also similar to CJ/SCJ being slightly deeper and baffled. They also came with an oil cooler adapter similar to that of a 71 429 SCJ mustang. The good 460 PI's were in 73-74. They didn't have as much good stuff but still pretty nice. Pretty much all of the same information applies that I mentioned on the 429 but they had steel valve covers and a small port intake instead of the CJ sized intake. Also the pistons were TRW forged on the 460 but they had a very slight dish similar to the JE dished pistons. So depending on whether it is really a PI motor and depending on how complete it is, there could be alot of good parts there that are worth money. The oil cooler adapter and bolt for instance can sell for $200+. The aluminum valve covers can sell for $200+, etc. Also the part number on the block will not tell you if it a PI engine. The D20E-AB on the heads is what to look for as somebody mentioned earlier. [This message has been edited by Mike_R (edited 01-23-2003).]
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