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2BAD6568s
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posted 01-22-2003 09:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2BAD6568s   Click Here to Email 2BAD6568s     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How much is a 429 police interceptor with a c6 on the motor worth? a guy said he had two and i should make him a offer. they are still in the cars.

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steve'66
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posted 01-22-2003 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
$500

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mustangboy
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posted 01-23-2003 12:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mustangboy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe the heads are fairly rare and desirable on these motors.I'd snap them up if they're reasonable.

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Dave_C
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posted 01-23-2003 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave_C   Click Here to Email Dave_C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just make sure they are really police interceptors. I have seen some guys try to claim a basic 429 was a PI.

The PI's will have a casting # of D2OE-AB on the heads.

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Dubz
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posted 01-23-2003 02:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dubz   Click Here to Email Dubz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
one of those would be nice

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2BAD6568s
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posted 01-23-2003 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2BAD6568s   Click Here to Email 2BAD6568s     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are these motors a 4 bolt main or two and how much horsepower were they rated for? what would be the #'s on the block? I looked on ebay and the exhaust manifolds were at around $250. And would the c6 be the heavy duty one?

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Just Strokin
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posted 01-23-2003 09:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Just Strokin   Click Here to Email Just Strokin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Most likely 2 bolt mains. Even some CJ's came with 2bolt mains, but all the SCJ's came with 4 bolt mains.

The best 429/460 blocks are the D0VE-A and the D1VE-AA. These two were used in the CJ and SCJ's and other cars also, but they were 4 bolts for the SCJ's. You also have the C9AE block that was the B9 block. Susposively if you have one of the D0VE-A or the D1VE-AA with the A in the square on the front of the block down by oil filter area, it has the B9 bulk heads.

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posted 01-23-2003 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mustangboy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm pretty sure the only thing special about the police interceptors is the heads.They have the CJ sized valves with normal size ports and hardened valve seats for unleaded gas.Head part numbers are D2OE-AA and D2OE-AB .They make a nice bolt on head for a healthy big block.

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posted 01-23-2003 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Just Strokin   Click Here to Email Just Strokin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The intake valve was actually smaller than the CJ/SCJ intake...the PI had 2.19 intake valves verses 2.245 for the CJ/SCJ.

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kid vishus
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posted 01-23-2003 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kid vishus   Click Here to Email kid vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Port weren't the same size as a normal head either, they were bigger, but not as big as the CJ heads. We had PI heads on a 460 in our old "tow van". We got regular intake gaskets for it one time, they covered up part of the port, and regular exhaust gaskets didnt fit either, they were too small. They are really an "in between" head. That old van had plenty of power, probably almost as much as the power stroke my father has now, but it got terrible mileage. 5 mpg pulling the trailer was real common.

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Mike_R
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posted 01-23-2003 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike_R   Click Here to Email Mike_R     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If it's actually a 429 police interceptor it had alot of good parts. My brothers and I used to buy these engines from junkyars back in the early 1980's. I've seen about a dozen of the 429 and 460 PI's.

The 429 PI's would generally be a 1972 engine with an intake manifold identical to a 429 CJ except it had an odd spreadbore pattern for a ford carb that was not a quadrajet. The heads are D2OE-AB and have ports halway between CJ and standard size, with 2.19" and 1.725" valves. They also have guide plates, hardened pushrods, and CJ style rockers. The pistons are forged TRW flat tops with a large eyebrow. Basically same pistons and rods as a SCJ. The exhaust manifolds are similar to CJ/SCJ but with D2 part numbers. They have aluminum finned valve covers similar to a CJ/SCJ. The blocks could be 2 bolt or 4 bolt main with a part number of D0VE or D1VE. Just judging from what I've seen your chances are about 50/50 of getting a 4 bolt. You don't know until you pull the pan. The oil pan is also similar to CJ/SCJ being slightly deeper and baffled. They also came with an oil cooler adapter similar to that of a 71 429 SCJ mustang.

The good 460 PI's were in 73-74. They didn't have as much good stuff but still pretty nice. Pretty much all of the same information applies that I mentioned on the 429 but they had steel valve covers and a small port intake instead of the CJ sized intake. Also the pistons were TRW forged on the 460 but they had a very slight dish similar to the JE dished pistons.

So depending on whether it is really a PI motor and depending on how complete it is, there could be alot of good parts there that are worth money. The oil cooler adapter and bolt for instance can sell for $200+. The aluminum valve covers can sell for $200+, etc.

Also the part number on the block will not tell you if it a PI engine. The D20E-AB on the heads is what to look for as somebody mentioned earlier.

[This message has been edited by Mike_R (edited 01-23-2003).]

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