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Topic: solid roller and oil
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stroker man
Gearhead Posts: 113
From: Denville NJ USA
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 01-15-2003 08:26 PM
   
called comp cams for infro about solid rollers, said its not good to idle to long, how long is to long?, also is there a differance between solid roller and hy roller, same rollers right,getting differant feedback on other sites, just wanted to know more about them, is there a problem with these solid cams or are they ok for steet cars, i see a lot of them at the track, you can hear them.i know they make more power.
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stroker man
Gearhead Posts: 113
From: Denville NJ USA
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 01-15-2003 08:28 PM
sorry i know solids are differant inside just the rollers.
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 19704
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 01-15-2003 09:02 PM
HUH?
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stroker man
Gearhead Posts: 113
From: Denville NJ USA
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 01-15-2003 09:44 PM
ok let me try this again, i heard that solid roller cams generate more heat then hy rollers, and they need constant oil,comp cams says that they should not be at idle for to long, why?
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 6522
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 01-15-2003 10:18 PM
I'd call comp again and ask someone that has worked there for more than a few days.
How long of idling is "too long"? Cause most race motors idle all the way to the starting line. 
The only difference inside the lifter is that they are solid. SteveW
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stroker man
Gearhead Posts: 113
From: Denville NJ USA
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 01-15-2003 10:27 PM
steve thanks, dont know about comp cams,never know what there saying, and being not a cam wiz gets confusing, anyway just feeling things out with this solid cam stuff, one more thing do you need a shaft mounted rocker arm for solid roller cams, i hear that too,or can i use my rollers on it. love to just get the dam thing but keep hearing this stuff makes me say just screw it stay with the hy roller. later.
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 19704
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 01-15-2003 11:08 PM
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Originally posted by stroker man:
called comp cams for infro about solid rollers,
getting differant feedback on other sites, B]
Did you ever hear the expression "too many cooks spoil the broth"?
A roller camshaft is the most efficiant, friction free valve moving device ever invented.
Why do you think that Detroit finally adopted it almost exclusivly? They stayed away so long because it was cost prohibitive when cars were less than $5000.
Now that you can't buy a car for under $20k, an extra $100 per engine is justified for the gain in power, economy, and wear.
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The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 6522
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 01-16-2003 12:01 AM
quote:
Originally posted by stroker man:
steve thanks,
one more thing do you need a shaft mounted rocker arm for solid roller cams, i hear that too,or can i use my rollers on it.
Yes stud mounted rockers are fine! They need to be adjustable, but I'm sure yours are. I don't know who you are listening too but, we won't let you down, or make a bad recomendation.
Alex has been running solid roller since they came out 20 years ago. SteveW
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 19704
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 01-16-2003 01:10 AM
Closer to 30. 
I got my first roller cam in 1973 and they were already at least 10 or 11 years old then.------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,&'03
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Professional Manwhore
The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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WARDF
Journeyman Posts: 44
From: Cecilia, Ky. USA
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 01-16-2003 08:12 PM
Alex, what about roller cam bearings on the street? I've heard that they get their lubrication solely from what gets splashed on them, is this true?Also I see comp cams offers a few different mech rollers for the street, do you think they will hold up on a car that gets driven 35 miles one way to cruise ins a couple times a month? And lastly I see you deal comp cams, do you or can match prices of summit or jegs on the same items?
Thanks, Ward
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 19704
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 01-16-2003 08:26 PM
I would not recomend rollerized cam bearings on a street car.
I would drive a solid roller cam engine to California and back without any hesitation Ward.
We are cheaper on some and higher on others compared to the mail order houses. As a rule, they are cheaper on the super popular "in stock" parts. On most roller or hard core race stuff we are competitive or cheaper.
I am a little guy who helps everyone here at M&M in many ways daily. Obviously I cannot compete with the buying power of Jegs or Summit.
We specialize in Fords, not chebbies. That's all I sell parts for. It's quite rare that I will even special order parts for a chebbie, even for friends. I bleed blue. Purchase your parts where you feel the most comfertible Ward. Price does not always concour all. ------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,&'03
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Professional Manwhore
The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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Buster
Gearhead Posts: 780
From: Orlando
Registered: May 2002
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posted 01-17-2003 02:02 AM
If you buy from Jegs or Summit your only helping the cheby guys out....So what if someone makes an extra 2 dollars on a part... it's worth it to have that person in business and thats not to bring up the fact that they help out in the forum all the time either.
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 19704
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 01-17-2003 10:52 AM
Thanks Buster.  ------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,&'03
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Professional Manwhore
The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
www.moneymakerracing.com
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