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Topic: question for steve66
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stroker man
Gearhead Posts: 113
From: Denville NJ USA
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 01-11-2003 05:13 PM
   
now that im half way done with removing my motor, just refresh me on what size cam to get, my current cam is 218 228 536 536 112, 408w, c-4, 2500 stall,11'',hy roller is in now, like to stay with that if i could, have all the parts anyway, also should i port the heads or just leave them alone, they have been cnc,d, what about manifold keep the stealth or go vic jr?remember my car is not a racer just street car with power brakes, need brakes, will my stall be ok for that bigger cam or step it up, i like to buy all the parts myself and put it together to save some money, i have prices for cam heads ported and manifold over 2000 grand and all parts, like to get all the parts nailed down so i can move on to nexk step. thanks guys. ps lunati springs are good for more lift on my heads, the cam i was thinking of is 224 232,534 544 112 or 232 242 544 560 112 these cams use same springs as my cam.
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two89w
Gearhead Posts: 196
From: sydney australia
Registered: Sep 2002
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posted 01-11-2003 07:26 PM
comp cams xr280r 
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 6522
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 01-11-2003 10:12 PM
Stroker,I wouldn't pick either of your choices. Remember that the extra cubes will make your cam feel smaller than it really is. I really do like the XR280R for your application. 242/248 @ .050 & .608/.614 lift, 110 c/l. It will work with your gears and stall convertor too. Big savings there. And you won't have to crawl around under your car.  It's a solid roller, but worth it. Comp's notes (remember for 351 cubes) Best in street machines with 2800 stall, 10-1 or more compression with 3.73-3.90 rear gears. Sell the stealth on e-bay and get a vic jr intake, top it off with a 830-850 Holley DP'er. Run a good 3" exhaust, and find some traction!  These upgrades will be well under your budget. SteveW
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stroker man
Gearhead Posts: 113
From: Denville NJ USA
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 01-11-2003 10:29 PM
steve, i dont know about solid rollers, i hear you have to check the bearings on the rollers because they wear out faster is that true, i sure it would sound pretty mean with it, how much would it cost to go solid roller from hy roller, is it ok for my driving street car, dont know anything about those cams, what about vaccuum for brakes? hum really got lot to think about here, like to make good power but still be able to drive it on a sat nite cruise.
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 6522
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 01-11-2003 10:35 PM
That's a little one, and you should be able to get 10-11 inches of vac out of it. If that isn't enough then just add a vacuum canister for a few bucks.
I really don't know what it would take to switch fron Crane hyd rollers to Comp solid rollers, but it would be cheaper than gears and a new torque converter. As far as adjusting them all the time, that's a myth! As long as your engine isn't self destructing (valves sinking into the heads, or pushrods wearing out) the adjustments stay the same! You just check them every 5000 miles to see if anything is wearing out. SteveW
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 6522
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 01-11-2003 11:02 PM
BTW,Having James loosen the converter up to 2800-3000 stall would help.
And, no you don't have to worry about the roller bearings in solid roller lifters either. You gotta trust me/us on this, if anyone disagrees please speak up. SteveW
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two89w
Gearhead Posts: 196
From: sydney australia
Registered: Sep 2002
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posted 01-12-2003 04:30 AM
what about a comp cams 294s? anyone?
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stroker man
Gearhead Posts: 113
From: Denville NJ USA
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 01-12-2003 10:40 AM
steve that cam sounds good for my 408, will i have to check piston to valve clearance, have probe pistons from coast high performance way back,might send the converter out to JPT and up it a little to play it safe, you guys like those solid rollers, dont know anything about them so im little hesitate, but if its works im there, my car would sound cool with that bad boy in it, screw the hy roller,should i leave the heads alone or get them done also, trying to keep costs down if i can, maybe vic jr, my carb is new from BIGS, its all done up, 750HP DP,anybody running solid roller on a street car let me know, how about you giddy,now you guys really got me screwed up with this cam talk, instead of dreaming of my girlfriend at nite im thinking lobe seperation and duration @.050. thanks guys.
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RADRIDE
Gearhead Posts: 240
From: Va.Beach, Va.
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 01-12-2003 11:40 AM
I have the 294s in the 65FB and I love it.The only problem was with a T-5 and 3.55 rear I needed 70mph to get 5th and keep over 2000 rpm.Seemed like a good time for 4.11s,so I did and never looked back.Sounds great and runs even better.I still drive this car on street and to some shows up to 100 miles away.About 1 tank of fuel.
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two89w
Gearhead Posts: 196
From: sydney australia
Registered: Sep 2002
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posted 01-12-2003 03:26 PM
radride...is ur 294s in a 302 or 347?
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 6522
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 01-12-2003 06:17 PM
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Originally posted by stroker man:
steve that cam sounds good for my 408, will i have to check piston to valve clearance, have probe pistons from coast high performance way back,might send the converter out to JPT and up it a little to play it safe, you guys like those solid rollers, dont know anything about them so im little hesitate, but if its works im there, my car would sound cool with that bad boy in it, screw the hy roller,should i leave the heads alone or get them done also, trying to keep costs down if i can, maybe vic jr, my carb is new from BIGS, its all done up, 750HP DP,anybody running solid roller on a street car let me know, how about you giddy,now you guys really got me screwed up with this cam talk, instead of dreaming of my girlfriend at nite im thinking lobe seperation and duration @.050. thanks guys.
You're welcome, I think. Solid rollers are the "only way to fly". You will need a bronze gear on the distributor. Your Probe pistons are probably dished (assuming 10-1 compression) so I don't think you'll have any problems. But always check for clearance, either with light weight springs or by claying the piston. As far as intake, yeah swap it out for a Vic JR and your heads are CNC'd now, if you can have them ported to equal Vic Jr heads that's even better. If you still have money left a 3.70 or 3.89 gear will help a little too, but isn't really required on the street with the right converter. Good luck and get back to dreaming of your girl. SteveW
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RADRIDE
Gearhead Posts: 240
From: Va.Beach, Va.
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 01-12-2003 06:37 PM
302 block bored.040 and decked,289 crank and rods.AFR 185 heads.
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stroker man
Gearhead Posts: 113
From: Denville NJ USA
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 01-12-2003 08:38 PM
thanks steve ,let you know when im ready to go, engine is ready to come out, im sure i'll have more questions for ya, one question now, hows your car idle with that big roller, also i see comp cams has one a XR274R little less on the stall, 2500 which is mine but rough idle, which one is more practical? later
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 6522
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 01-12-2003 08:59 PM
We run the zr286r which is the weekend warrior cam. It's a little small for what we're doing but it runs fine on the street! Not too bad on the track either. Don't go too small on the cam again! SteveW
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stroker man
Gearhead Posts: 113
From: Denville NJ USA
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 01-12-2003 09:38 PM
steve, i was reading some old posts here and you didnt like solid rollers cams, what changed your mind.
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 6522
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 01-12-2003 10:10 PM
quote:
Originally posted by stroker man:
steve, i was reading some old posts here and you didnt like solid rollers cams, what changed your mind.
Trying one, SteveW
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 6522
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 01-12-2003 10:17 PM
You can run a LOT more cam and still have the bottom end torque that you like with a solid roller. period SteveW
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