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Topic: roll cage welding?
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thumpin cat
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Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 01-07-2003 04:00 PM
  
what type of welder is used to weld a roll cage together?how hard is it to weld a roll cage together at home, with some welding experience? let me know thanks a lot
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Moneymaker
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posted 01-07-2003 05:11 PM
Mig or tig is the preferred method, but you can arc or gas weld it also. ------------------
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thumpin cat
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posted 01-07-2003 06:10 PM
are ARC and TIG welders basically the same?
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ciscokid
Journeyman Posts: 70
From: Cleveland, TN
Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 01-07-2003 06:26 PM
If you don't know the difference between the two, I would not recommend trying to weld it at home!!!  Arc (SMAW) (also called "stick") is about as different from TIG (GTAW) as chocolate is from dog s**t. NHRA rule book says that chromoly cages have to be TIG welded and mild steel has to be either TIG or MIG (GMAW) welded. Stick welded cages are not "legal", however I know of a lot of folks that run stick welded cages in stock and super stock and nothing has ever been said. Good luck.
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steve'66
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From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 01-07-2003 09:28 PM
Yep,A big MIG welder for a mild steel roll bar. Tig is a lot slower and only needed for chrome moly. In layman's terms; MIG is a wire feed welder. The wire throws the arc (shielded with inert gas) and the welder feeds wire into the weld as you run the bead. TIG is like an electric torch and the arc comes from a tungsten tip (shielded with inert gas) and you add wire filler into the arc. With the modern welders we have today you shouldn't even consider gas or stick welders.  SteveW
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thumpin cat
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posted 01-07-2003 09:31 PM
would welding suspension components using an ARC welder not work?
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 6522
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
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posted 01-07-2003 10:59 PM
I've arc welded all kinds of suspension components including frames. It works well with the right rod.  SteveW
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bfxcomet
Gearhead Posts: 574
From: Port Alberni, B.C. , Canada
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 01-08-2003 02:06 AM
When you say suspension components; which ones do you mean? Most suspension parts should be done by a person with a good welding background. I have seen suspension parts fail that have been done by backyard welders, and when suspension parts failing at speed it is very ugly.
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thumpin cat
Gearhead Posts: 260
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posted 01-08-2003 02:19 AM
i will deffinently hire someone to do the suspension pieces, and the roll cage its just hard finding someone in my area to do the job.thanks for the help
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thumpin cat
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posted 01-08-2003 02:36 AM
i am just curious about why nhra does not allow ARC welded roll cages?how big of a MIG welder do you need to weld a roll cage? let me know thanks a lot
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Just Strokin
Gearhead Posts: 754
From: Tuscaloosa, Alabama
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 01-08-2003 07:51 AM
NHRA rules, not sure how current they are.....http://www.jr333.com/nhrarules.htm
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