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clevelandstyle
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From: Connersville, IN
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posted 12-18-2002 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for clevelandstyle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have never rebuilt an auto trans before, but I'm the kind of guy that likes to do everything myself. I couldn't afford to buy a full boogy racing trans, so I thought ,what the heck? I did a lot of studying and researching and did it myself. Today the weather was great so I took it out and tried it with my fingers crossed. It seems to work great. It's a case fill C4 that I rollerized. It has a full manual valve body, racing clutches and kevlar band and a JPT 4900 converter. Wow, that second gear hits hard. It's WAY better than the manual C6 that it replaced. The only thing I don't have is a trans break. I can't quite afford that, yet.
I can't wait until the racing season starts. I'm looking to drop 2-3 tenths in ET. I also hope the trans doesn't let me down. It's really an experiment for me, but I don't think I'll ever hire a rebuild again. It ain't that bad.

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stoker
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posted 12-18-2002 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stoker   Click Here to Email stoker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
good luck with c-4,you should get a good more ponies to rear compared to c-6.if you ever need tech support or parts (i think jim galiotto at ATO stocks trans brakes)he did my c-4 and his workmanship is A+ his phone #916-636-3283.tell him kevin kraft sent you

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steve'66
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posted 12-18-2002 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ben,

GOOD JOB!
Feels good doesn't it,

SteveW

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clevelandstyle
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posted 12-18-2002 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for clevelandstyle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heck yeah, it feel good.

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Ben
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Moneymaker
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posted 12-19-2002 07:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It will hold up fine Ben. Good job.

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kid vishus
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posted 12-19-2002 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kid vishus   Click Here to Email kid vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My c4 hits second gear a ton harder than my race c6 ever did.

After watching KK's brother Dave pull my c4 apart several times, I dont think there's that much to them if you have the right parts to put back in. I have a c4 in storage here that needs gone thru (high gear wont work). I think I'm going to try and fix it myself.

Yep, I wouldnt be suprised to see a 3 tenths improvement in your ET.

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posted 12-19-2002 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Typically there is a .020 decrease in ET from the best C-6 to a C-4.
This excludes any Mopig 904 parts equipped C-6's.

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Alex Denysenko
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clevelandstyle
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posted 12-19-2002 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for clevelandstyle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, Kid. You probably have an advantage over me, since you have seen inside one with KK's brother. I was always afraid of them. There was some kind of voodoo magic inside of them. That's why I have never messed with one before. I always hired out the rebuilds. Money is tight this year, so, you gotta do what you gotta do. I'm not afraid anymore. The fact that I'm a machinist helps.
As for dropping ET. I'll take all I can get. My best ET last season was 11.29 in the spring, but the average settled in at mid 11 in the heat of summer. I'm still aiming for 10s.

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kid vishus
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posted 12-19-2002 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kid vishus   Click Here to Email kid vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by clevelandstyle:
I was always afraid of them. There was some kind of voodoo magic inside of them.


I thought the same thing till he opened mine up in front of me. I always used to pay someone to do mine also. Now I think I want to take a crack at fixing the one I have here for my '70.

My c6 must not have been very efficient. I picked up almost 3 tenths when I switched from it to my c4.

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Just Strokin
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posted 12-19-2002 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Just Strokin   Click Here to Email Just Strokin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kid and others.....

You will need two tools to work on the C4 that usually aren't part of everyone's tool box. The first one you will need to buy is horseshoe snap ring pliers and the second one you can make if you have or acess to a welder.

You will need about 12" piece of 1/2" threaded rod or an old spare tire tie down bolt and a piece of flat steel 1/4" thick by 2" wide. You will need to make a U shaped by cutting the flat steel into 3 pieces. Two are about 2" long and the other long enough to span the drum to remove the clip and spring. U shape the two short pieces and welt them to the long pice and drill a 1/2" hole in it. Then use you vise to remove the clip and spring and to re-install it.

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posted 12-19-2002 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Most tool trucks sell the clutch spring compressing tools cheaply also (except snap off).

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Alex Denysenko
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