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jsracingbbf
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posted 11-28-2002 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jsracingbbf   Click Here to Email jsracingbbf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Considering the rear spoiler/wing,(69-70) do they really provide any measure of downforce? Is it enough? I want something on the back of my drag car for stability. I think those Aluminum fabricated ones look awful and take away from the looks of a car. They're fine for craparos but not on a Mustang.

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dark7068
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posted 11-28-2002 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dark7068   Click Here to Email dark7068     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On my Cougar I noticed an improvement over 100mph, but not much before that

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Moneymaker
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posted 11-28-2002 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would say that you need to be capable of a 100 MPH speed by the 1/8th mile to realize any benefit from the OEM style spoiler.

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posted 11-28-2002 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dark7068   Click Here to Email dark7068     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
stock spoilers look alot better then the alum. race ones

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stang106
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posted 11-28-2002 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stang106   Click Here to Email stang106     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anybody here know the history of the mustang's spoilers? I have one and it is shaped like a wing.... and angle adjustable suggesting to me that it can be used to create downforce for highspeed over 100 mph cornering such as NASCAR. I would think for street/strip use the wing would be totally cosmetic.
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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 11-28-2002 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It was designed for the Trans Am series cars in the late sixties.

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jsracingbbf
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posted 11-29-2002 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jsracingbbf   Click Here to Email jsracingbbf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Last pass I made it went through at 119mph in the 1/8th. I lightened the car up 100 lbs so it should be a tad quicker. We will see. I hate the looks of the fabricated ones, that's why I was wondering if the OEM style wing does as good a job as the fabricated do-d0- looking race spoilers.

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Rory McNeil
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posted 11-29-2002 02:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rory McNeil   Click Here to Email Rory McNeil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They MUST work, even with the car sitting still, a 70 Mustang with a rear spoiler on it won`t allow the trunk lid to stay open, without propping the lid up! It closes all by itself! If that ain`t downforce, I don`t know what is!! :

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stang106
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posted 11-29-2002 03:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stang106   Click Here to Email stang106     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rory, that's a good one, I'll try to remember it! So how fast were the Trans-Am cars in the corners? And Jerry, do you have a high-speed traction problem?
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posted 11-29-2002 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL, good point Rory.

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jsracingbbf
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posted 11-29-2002 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jsracingbbf   Click Here to Email jsracingbbf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rory, good observation, my trunk won't stay open anyway, it's fiberglass pin on.

Stang106 No not that I know of but a little top end stability never hurts. You ever hit a guard rail doing 100mph?

cya

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kid vishus
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posted 12-01-2002 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kid vishus   Click Here to Email kid vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it would help some. I like the fabricated ones on the right car, but I think they dont like right on a 69-70 style fastback. I have seen a couple with the fabbed wings, I guess they needed something and that was what worked for them. One was a 69 that was running 5.20's at around 130 mph. I dont have any on my car, but it's not as fast as Jerry's car. However, it did seem pretty stable at 133+ in the qrtr.

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posted 12-01-2002 10:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jsracingbbf   Click Here to Email jsracingbbf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kid vishus:
I think it would help some. I like the fabricated ones on the right car, but I think they dont like right on a 69-70 style fastback. I have seen a couple with the fabbed wings, I guess they needed something and that was what worked for them. One was a 69 that was running 5.20's at around 130 mph. I dont have any on my car, but it's not as fast as Jerry's car. However, it did seem pretty stable at 133+ in the qrtr.

Kid, the way things are going, you keep getting faster and mine just sits there in the shop, I'll be playing catch up. I don't mind I'd rather play catch up to another 69-70 than a crapmaro. If your's was good at 133 in the 1/4 I'll chance mine for now. I've never run this car in the 1/4 yet and it may be a while before I do so I got time. We will see. THANKS
Jerry

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