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ccode67
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posted 11-05-2002 08:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ccode67   Click Here to Email ccode67     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My cousin is looking for rods for his 428 PI.
The machine shop ruined the stock rods so he is looking for advice on rods, Eagle or Crower maybe, any suggestions?

Length is 6.490

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V8 Thumper
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posted 11-05-2002 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ccode67:
The machine shop ruined the stock rods

I have no experience with aftermarket FE rods so I can't help you with the thread topic, but WHAT HAPPENED???

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ccode67
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posted 11-05-2002 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ccode67   Click Here to Email ccode67     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Installed ARP bolts and rebored the big end, caps were not torqued so now the cap is not square with the rod, he torqued the caps and miked them, different measures between across and up/down. Also there is a "dent" at the top end of the rod, just below the pin hole that he doesn't think was there originally?? Dented cast iron is broken cast iron right??

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posted 11-05-2002 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Crower.
I would spend $500 on stock SCJ rods before I would buy the Eagle product.
Been there done that.

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Rory McNeil
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posted 11-05-2002 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rory McNeil   Click Here to Email Rory McNeil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I too have heard some bad stories about the Eagle FE rods breaking. If you can swing the cost, the Crower rods are way to fly, but otheerwise I like the Ford rods, as long as you don`t rev the pi$$ out it. The LeMans/428SCJ capscrew rods are very strong, but also quite heavy, expensive, & most have been beat to death. On the 428 in my Fairmont, I am using the C7AE-B 3/8`s bolt rods. This is the same forging as the 428CJ rod, but without the oddball sizes 13/32" rod bolts.Since the rod isn`t drilled out for the larger bolts, I would have to believe they would be a bit stronger in that area. Replace the stock bolts with some ARP`s, have them magnafluxed,& resized properly, & they work very well. Mine have been running mid to low 10`s ET`s for over 8 seasons now, still look fine.

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posted 11-05-2002 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TomP   Click Here to Email TomP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd suggest using stock rods too unless these are going much over 7000 rpm.

Stock rods and bolts serve me fine to 6500, i wouldn't trust the bolts or cast pistons beyond that tho.

On my 427 i use the Le Mans (pronounced "Lay-maw" if ya wanna sound really continental ), they are bricks but can easily go past 7500 without bustin'.

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ccode67
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posted 11-06-2002 07:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ccode67   Click Here to Email ccode67     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks guys, the main reason he is asking about aftermarket rods is because he hasn't been able to locate any SCJ rods. We are going to Columbus for the swap meet, maybe he'll find some there. Anyone else going? It's on the weekend after Thanksgiving.

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