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madmanmike
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From: brenham,Texas,washington
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posted 10-25-2002 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for madmanmike   Click Here to Email madmanmike     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone have a set of A-3 cleveland heads for sale with flow numbers?
C-302b heads?

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fastbackRb
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From: Columbus,Ga.
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posted 10-25-2002 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fastbackRb   Click Here to Email fastbackRb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Might know where a set of A3's are,set up for a .800 in. roller with ss valves.He did have the flow sheet but he was asking $2200 for the pair ready to bolt on.

Rudy

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RobsRestoMod
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posted 10-25-2002 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RobsRestoMod   Click Here to Email RobsRestoMod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Mike, Are you the one who runs the yellow 68 at Navasota?

Rob

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Mpcoluv
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posted 10-26-2002 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mpcoluv   Click Here to Email Mpcoluv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There was a set of A3s for sale at my local speed shop. The guy wanted $2200 bare for them. WAY too expensive if you ask me.
You need to round up the SVO "Edelbrock" A331 intake for those heads also if you want a "Factory Fit" intake. I sold one of those a few months ago.
Hey Dan Jones has a secret hoard of SVO canted valve heads and intakes. Maybe he would sell you a set.....

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madmanmike
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posted 10-26-2002 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for madmanmike   Click Here to Email madmanmike     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes I am! you can see the car at hotrodchat.com message board yellow 68 # 7 index holder Street wars

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madmanmike
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posted 10-26-2002 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for madmanmike   Click Here to Email madmanmike     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes! $2200 is to much for castings .Brodix bf 300"s are 2100 and flow 290-300 out of the box with a 196 cc intake runner

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Mpcoluv
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posted 10-26-2002 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mpcoluv   Click Here to Email Mpcoluv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by madmanmike:
Yes! $2200 is to much for castings .Brodix bf 300"s are 2100 and flow 290-300 out of the box with a 196 cc intake runner

That's not bad flow, but a set of inline valve heads will do just as well for less $$$. I have never seen a "Killer" deal on any of the used SVO canted valve heads. Most cost more than they are worth IMHO.
Are you locked into "Cleveland" style heads?
If so, buy "Dad Vichus" set of high ported 4V heads and keep money in the bank.....
Just my 2 cents.

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kid vishus
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posted 10-26-2002 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kid vishus   Click Here to Email kid vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My opinion, unless you are building a really killer motor, factory 4v heads are hard to beat. Want more power out of them, build a better shortblock because they will support it. My factory 4v headed motor with stock rods and nothing exotic in it, based on the times it runs, is making just over 600 hp at the flywheel. I know the heads will support a bigger inch motor, I just cant afford to build one.

I would take the money you would have spent on aftermarket 'C' heads, and sink it into a stroker shortblock.

Just my 2 cents worth.

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Daniel Jones
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From: St. Louis, MO
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posted 10-26-2002 11:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Daniel Jones   Click Here to Email Daniel Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
>Anyone have a set of A-3 cleveland heads for sale with flow numbers?
>C-302b heads?

There are three of us in the Pantera club putting together A3-headed
strokers this winter. I haven't had a chance to assemble or flow mine
yet but one of the guys in the group just did. He had a radius seat
valve job done using standard 4V Cleveland valves (2.19"/1.71") and
some basic prep:

lift 0.3 0.4 0.5 0.6 0.65
int 209 266 315 347 356
ex 146 173 194 213 220

>There was a set of A3s for sale at my local speed shop. The guy wanted
>$2200 bare for them. WAY too expensive if you ask me.

Heh, heh, heh. Larry Stock (Pantera Parts Connection) has a pair of
NOS bare A3's for "only" $3000. Luckily I found a local guy selling
the same thing for $750.

>You need to round up the SVO "Edelbrock" A331 intake for those heads
>also if you want a "Factory Fit" intake.

Yup, got one of those. If the overtime holds out and Kelly comes
through I might be replacing it with a cross-ram IR EFI set up,
though.

>Hey Dan Jones has a secret hoard of SVO canted valve heads and intakes.
>Maybe he would sell you a set....

Hey, how can they be secret if you tell everybody :-) Besides, I've
only got six sets. Gotta get all I can before those idiots start
hoarding them :-) I will eventually sell of a couple of pair but
that'll be later on. Too busy now to worry about it.

>I would take the money you would have spent on aftermarket 'C' heads,
>and sink it into a stroker shortblock.

Better yet a stroker and A3 heads. That's the plan.

Dan Jones

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Rustang
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From: Clarion PA
Registered: Nov 2000

posted 10-27-2002 06:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rustang   Click Here to Email Rustang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tough looking Stang, Mike!

Do you still have the stock shock towers? Just curious if you have a game plan for headers with the raised exhaust port heads?

I've been thinking about going that route eventually with my '68 but don't know what kind of fit problems I'd be in for.

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