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ragtopjr
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From: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada.
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posted 10-13-2002 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ragtopjr   Click Here to Email ragtopjr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Due to breaking my t5 last night, I have to look at the option of going to an automatic tranny.

Who has gone to an automatic tranny from a stick, and what all problems did you encounter?

What shifters did you use other then stock was available without having to bastardize your console.

If you did have to bastardize your console what shifters did you use and how did they turn out?

I will likely pull it out next weekend and see if i can not just repair it easily, but even if i can it is still only a very short term fix, and will certainly blow up the next time i really pound on it.

so I am interested in your experiences with auto's.

I would like to look at a lentech but reality will likely force me into a c4

Thanks in advance

if anyone has any tips on doing this swap i would appreciate them and any of those little details that come up at the worst time when swapping over.

Tech articles would be great

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1984 5.0L LX Conv 3600 lbs 13.41 at 101.89 SIR

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Boss302
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posted 10-13-2002 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Boss302   Click Here to Email Boss302     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How'd she break??? old age??

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Just Strokin
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posted 10-13-2002 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Just Strokin   Click Here to Email Just Strokin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How good are you at welding? Sorry, that wasn't called for was it?

Just feeling similar frustrations this evening while trying to put the front end of my 64 Fairlane together.

But, I thought B&M did make some ****ers for the auto in a late model mustang. But, as old age gets a better hold on me, I may be wrong.

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No fast Fords at this time but one fine cruising 96 F350 CC DRW Power Strokin diesel.
And one rusty 64 Fairlane nick-named the Rust Bucket....And sometimes called the Money Pit...

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Just Strokin
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posted 10-13-2002 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Just Strokin   Click Here to Email Just Strokin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oooooops.......M&M doesn't like it when you leave the F out of shifter.......lol

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ragtopjr
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posted 10-13-2002 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ragtopjr   Click Here to Email ragtopjr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Just Strokin:
oooooops.......M&M doesn't like it when you leave the F out of shifter.......lol


LOL I was wondering if that was what happened

The tranny was a brand new T 5 Z rated tranny, that had a year of use, and was just gone through when i pulled it out two years ago.

The tranny broke under power after granny shifting (not double clutching like i should I cant help but laugh when I think about that )

I can only assume that I have reached the limits of the T5.

I am not pulling the tranny until after it has been appraised and insured.

So I will have to wait a while to find out what the deal is.

For me to say that I am mad, and dissapointed would be an understatement.

I really should have just done what i wanted and stood by what I had said earlier and just waited till next year to really get on it.

Peer pressure really sucks

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Ed
Heart mods:Trick High flow titanium valve ported & polished Listen close: "tic tic tic" No folks thats not a noisy lifter thats the sound of big flow!
1984 5.0L LX Conv 3600 lbs 13.41 at 101.89 SIR

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Just Strokin
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posted 10-13-2002 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Just Strokin   Click Here to Email Just Strokin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since I haven't dealt with any 5 or 6 speeds, I wonder if like the old top loaders, you striped the teeth off the gear and not really broke that much.

The old TL's were bad about stripping the small teeth after years of abuse.

Might not cost you too much to repair it.

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ragtopjr
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posted 10-13-2002 11:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ragtopjr   Click Here to Email ragtopjr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it is possible that it may not be all that expensive to fix.

but it broke with really very little abuse (first time running et streets) you can bet that it will not last.

its not like this was the stock tranny that has had 100, 000 miles on it it was very low mileage, and an awful lot of highway miles as well (with no power shifting ).

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Ed
Heart mods:Trick High flow titanium valve ported & polished Listen close: "tic tic tic" No folks thats not a noisy lifter thats the sound of big flow!
1984 5.0L LX Conv 3600 lbs 13.41 at 101.89 SIR

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ragtopjr
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posted 10-13-2002 11:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ragtopjr   Click Here to Email ragtopjr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just to clarify, this is in a fox body.

84 to be exact

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Ed
Heart mods:Trick High flow titanium valve ported & polished Listen close: "tic tic tic" No folks thats not a noisy lifter thats the sound of big flow!
1984 5.0L LX Conv 3600 lbs 13.41 at 101.89 SIR

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ragtopjr
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posted 10-16-2002 01:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ragtopjr   Click Here to Email ragtopjr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have some pretty good news
If all goes well I may have everything to do a C4 swap tomorrow

A friend of mine had done a C4 swap this summer in his Blown 86 Saleen.

Built C4
TCI 3500 convertor
Pro West 3000 convertor
Pro ratchet shifter
Flywheel

He didnt have the auto in his car much more then a week before he decided he liked the tremec better, so he went back to it, and had all his equipment to swap it out laying around.

We have made a deal for it all and hopefully he will be bringing it up here tomorrow (he lives about 300 miles away) and possibly I can get it all back into my car and perhaps get it running before the snow makes it impossible to drive the car.

So the C4 swap is becoming a reality, any tech articles you guys know of or any tips and tricks you have would be appreciated

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Ed
Heart mods:Trick High flow titanium valve ported & polished Listen close: "tic tic tic" No folks thats not a noisy lifter thats the sound of big flow!
1984 5.0L LX Conv 3600 lbs 13.41 at 101.89 SIR

My Homepage
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TomP
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From: Delta BC Canada
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posted 10-16-2002 04:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TomP   Click Here to Email TomP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
we got the black armbands on for ya buddy.

It's a sad day in manual trannydom

Oh well, maybe like your buddy ,you will switching it all back over again in a week

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 10-16-2002 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't forget to pull the pilot bearing!

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