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ZEATER
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From: Mount Pleasant,IA,USA
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posted 10-02-2002 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ZEATER   Click Here to Email ZEATER     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Best run was 373.8 @ 5600 rpm 412.1 ft lbs torque @ 3900.

The good news os the horsepower curve is very smooth. From 5200 to 6200 it only varied by 2 hp. I ran the car with full exhaust. The air fuel ratio stayed a steady 12.9:1 throughout the run.

The final number was a 20 HP increase and 16 ft lb increase from when we started.

I had been launching at 3500 and shifting at 5800. The shop suggested launching between 4000 to 4500 and shifting at 6200.

I ran a 12.27 @ 111 last time out and was hoping to hit 11's. Weather permitting I'll run up Friday night.

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Mpcoluv
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posted 10-02-2002 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mpcoluv   Click Here to Email Mpcoluv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's your engine combo?

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ZEATER
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posted 10-02-2002 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ZEATER   Click Here to Email ZEATER     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
428 10.6:1 Ebrock heads Blue thunder intake 850 holley tri y headers Comp Cams hydraulic 292H cam 110 lobe sep Gross lift .56/.56

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Dad Vishus
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posted 10-02-2002 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dad Vishus   Click Here to Email Dad Vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Zeater, where do you race?

If its Cordova, the bracket finals are there this week-end. You are quite a distance from there, so don't want you to make a long trip for nothing.

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steve'66
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posted 10-02-2002 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Zeater,

Nice numbers, hope it runs strong for you next time out!

SteveW

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kid vishus
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posted 10-02-2002 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kid vishus   Click Here to Email kid vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep Zeater, cordova isnt open to general racing this weekend. Next weekend it will be.

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68 S-code GT
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posted 10-03-2002 07:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 S-code GT   Click Here to Email 68 S-code GT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is it a FE engine or a stroker?

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ZEATER
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posted 10-03-2002 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ZEATER   Click Here to Email ZEATER     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't see about the bracket finals on my Cordova pamphlet. I guess I will hold off a week. Thanks for the info.

Yes it is a 428 not stroked

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Dad Vishus
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posted 10-03-2002 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dad Vishus   Click Here to Email Dad Vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have you ever gone to Eddyville to race? It can't be any farther than Cordova from Mt. Pleasant. Great 1/8 mile track! Best part is: NO SAND!!

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ZEATER
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posted 10-03-2002 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ZEATER   Click Here to Email ZEATER     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have heard Eddyville is great. I just can't get into an 1/8th mile mind set. I have always raced 1/4 and that's over fast enough (hopefully faster). I should try it though. I've heard the traction is better.

Cordova has improved lately. The pit areas are paved now.

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Dad Vishus
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posted 10-03-2002 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dad Vishus   Click Here to Email Dad Vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cordova has improved alot in the last few years.

We raced there for the first couple of years. Then we tried Eddyville and have raced there regularly for 7 or 8 years now.

Lets put it this way, Cordova is a 45 minute tow from my house. Eddyville is 2 hours. It IS that good.

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kid vishus
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posted 10-03-2002 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kid vishus   Click Here to Email kid vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, Scott Gardner has NOTHING to do with Eddyville. He's about as crooked as they come.

The traction is TON better at Eddyville, and the entire track and pit areas are way above and beyond anything cordova will ever be able to do.

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n2oMike
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posted 10-03-2002 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for n2oMike   Click Here to Email n2oMike     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would have thought horsepower would have kept climbing on up to around 6k or so.

You mentioned the car had a full exhaust. Could you inform us what size pipe and which mufflers were used? How about tailpipes?

Thanks!

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Mike Burch
66 mustang real street
302 4-speed 289 heads
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ZEATER
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posted 10-03-2002 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ZEATER   Click Here to Email ZEATER     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am running tri y ceramic coated headers into 2 1/2 inch pipes to flowmaster mufflers. 2 1/2 inch pipes from there to back of car. I'm not sure why horsepower remained basically unchanged from 5200 to 6200. Torque also was 400 at 3500 and at 4500 with the highest at 412 at about 3900 so it was pretty stable. I'm not sure if a steady horsepower curve is a bad thing. It does show I'm producing the high horse for an extended rpm range.
Any suggestions?

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n2oMike
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posted 10-03-2002 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for n2oMike   Click Here to Email n2oMike     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ZEATER:
I am running tri y ceramic coated headers into 2 1/2 inch pipes to flowmaster mufflers. 2 1/2 inch pipes from there to back of car. I'm not sure why horsepower remained basically unchanged from 5200 to 6200. ?

I'm thinking the exhaust system might be choking the car off on the top end. Engines don't usually level off like that unless there's a restriction somewhere.

Are the tailpipes at least mandrel bent Flowmaster units? Muffler shop tailpipes bent with those hydraulic bending machines get crushed all to h*ll in making those tight bends required to go up and over the axle. The mustang 2.5" pipes are only $99 at Summit, and will be the best money you can spend on a full exhaust system for a mustang.

Personally, I'd run 3" pipe back to a set of 3" mufflers that had a set of those 3-bolt header rings welded to their outlets. This will allow for REMOVABLE tailpipes using simple header reducers.

When you want the unrestricted power and sound of a 3" exhaust, loosen a few bolts, and you've got a boomin' race ready exhaust. If you want a little quiet, bolt the tailpipes on. The removable tailpipes also all easy removal of the complete exhaust system if you want to do tranny work or run open headers.

Good Luck!

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Mike Burch
66 mustang real street
302 4-speed 289 heads
10.63 @ 129.3
http://www.geocities.com/carbedstangs/cmml_mburch.html
http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/healey/367
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steve'66
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posted 10-03-2002 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes,

That engine needs 3" exhaust.

SteveW

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ZEATER
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posted 10-04-2002 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ZEATER   Click Here to Email ZEATER     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about exhaust cut outs?

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jkilroy
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posted 10-05-2002 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jkilroy   Click Here to Email jkilroy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Those are some great numbers, do you street drive that puppy often? I agree with Mike, those tri-y's are probably cutting you down 20hp on the top end. That cam shouldn't flatten out like that. That blue thunder intake is a dual plane right? That might be a contributing factor also, but if you street drive it, this is nearing perfection. Sounds like you have a well tuned, practical, package, job well done.

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Moneymaker
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posted 10-05-2002 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tires are probably slipping at 5000 RPM. Very common on chassis dynos.

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