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stang106
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posted 09-18-2002 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stang106   Click Here to Email stang106     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I want to take my car into the 12's and so I guess I should ditch the cast exaust manifolds. So why do you guys like the Supercomps and what else works well? Also do you tune them with collector length?
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Dave

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Moneymaker
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posted 09-18-2002 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What motor, heads and body Dave?

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stang106
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posted 09-18-2002 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stang106   Click Here to Email stang106     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alex,
I'm using my heavy '70 ragtop, 351W, 10:1 CR Windsor JR home ported with Vizard's book. 750 Holley VS. Comp Cam solid .569/.585 (minus lash), 239/247 at .050. LS 110. Also I'll be gearing for about 6k in third at the 1/4 finish line.
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Moneymaker
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posted 09-18-2002 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hooker super comp # 6116 are the ones that you need Dave. A set of #11230 collector extensions should be used in conjunction adjusted to the proper length.

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Alex Denysenko
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Fordwiser
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posted 09-18-2002 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fordwiser   Click Here to Email Fordwiser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry to jump in, but is there an easy way of determining collecter length other then testing different lenghts and comparing et slips? Seems like I've heard something about using cheap paint or a crayon line on the collecter to figure out the length, or is that for a crossover tube location?
Roger

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Moneymaker
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posted 09-18-2002 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There will be a burn ring in side the collector extension that will show a definate color change where the collector should be cut off when the tune up is correct.

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Fordwiser
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posted 09-18-2002 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fordwiser   Click Here to Email Fordwiser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Alex! How much et improvment can be expected with the proper length extensions over just open headers?
Roger

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kid vishus
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posted 09-18-2002 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kid vishus   Click Here to Email kid vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My car without the collector extensions is not quite a tenth slower in the 1/8. And it loses most of it in the 60'. I took them off one weekend two years when the track was real greasey trying to kill some bottom end torque, it worked.

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Fordwiser
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posted 09-18-2002 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fordwiser   Click Here to Email Fordwiser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cool!!! I still got my 3in. pipes from when I had mufflers on the car, that was before the driveshaft broke and destroyed the mufflers. I'll have to throw them on and try it, have often wondered if extensions would help, but didn't know if it was worth the trouble to experiment with the lengths! Price is definatlly worth it! Thanks
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Mike Harris
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posted 09-19-2002 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Harris   Click Here to Email Mike Harris     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fordwiser:
Seems like I've heard something about using cheap paint or a crayon line on the collecter to figure out the length, or is that for a crossover tube location?
Roger


That's the crossover tube Roger. The way I find the collector length is exactly the way Alex describes with the ring. On the crossover pipe.....
Crossover pipes don't work unless you find the "spot" where they should be. This is how to find the spot. Paint the mid pipe between the headers and the mufflers,a straight line fairly wide from front to back will work. Then start car while the paint is still tacky not too wet and be careful, it will possibly flame(depends on paint)so have an extinguisher handy. The part of the painted line that bubbles or deteriorates first is where the crossover should be. Don't be shocked if it's not straight across. Just put the pipe straight across from point to point if straight or in the middle of the 2 points if catty-cornered. If done correctly you should gain approx. 10ft lbs torque in the mid rpms. Hope this helps.

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jsracingbbf
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posted 09-19-2002 11:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jsracingbbf   Click Here to Email jsracingbbf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where ya BEen MIKE! welcome back
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stang106
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posted 09-19-2002 11:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stang106   Click Here to Email stang106     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is the 'burn-ring' an easy thing to see? What are typical collector extension lengths?
Dave

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Mike Harris
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posted 09-21-2002 11:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Harris   Click Here to Email Mike Harris     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Jerry! I don't get online much at all anymore and normally when I do it is only a few minutes just to check my e-mail. Free time is so hard to come by these days it seems. Hope all is well in your camp.

Dave,
There will be no doubt in your mind where the burn rings are, no sweat. As far as typical collector lengths...well, I don't put alot of effort into generalizing that so I wouldn't be much help there. I treat every combination differently, kind of like it was the first time you ever....well, nevermind.

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Mike Harris
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