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TurboGT
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posted 09-05-2002 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TurboGT   Click Here to Email TurboGT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a 9" rearend that I'd like to install in my car that uses drum brakes. It currently has the motorsport "kit" brakes, which I believe are the same as mid 70's Torino at 2 1/2" W x 10" diameter. It there a lighter weight, bolt on factory drum alternative that will fit this housing end/axle combination? They're 31 spline axles, but I don't remember the backing plate or bearing dimensions, so I'd have to measure again if needed. I'm going to use it for stick shift NHRA stocker racing, and won't be needing the brake capacity at the starting line. Thanks in advance.

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posted 09-05-2002 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
82 and 82 ONLY Lincoln Continental has aluminum 10x2 rear drums. You should be able to just change shoes and use those drums, but I would get the backing plates and all if you go to a junk yard just in case.

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TurboGT
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posted 09-05-2002 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TurboGT   Click Here to Email TurboGT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Alex! The search is on...

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Hans olsson
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posted 09-05-2002 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hans olsson   Click Here to Email Hans olsson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm.. i wonder if they fits -71 mustangs
as well? We could do with some less
rotating weight.


Hans

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Moneymaker
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posted 09-05-2002 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They will fit any FoMoCo with a 5 on 4.5 bolt pattern Hanns.

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posted 09-05-2002 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hans olsson   Click Here to Email Hans olsson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did they come on all -82 lincoln continental
or was it an option?
Thank you
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Moneymaker
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posted 09-05-2002 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All of them. Remember that is the first of the Seville looking "little" 4 door Continentals. Some even had 3.8 V-6's and diesels. In 1983 they went to 4w disc.

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Alex Denysenko
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posted 09-06-2002 03:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TomP   Click Here to Email TomP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
probably a safer idea than using well worn 10" shoes with really worn and resurfaced 9.5" GM aluminum drums

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TurboGT
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posted 09-06-2002 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TurboGT   Click Here to Email TurboGT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I struck out at the local yards, but did get my hands on a Hollander's interchange manual to look it up. It describes it as aluminum 10" drum, Hollander number 1150, with the following applications:

80-83 Lincoln Mark VI
80-82 Lincoln Continental
82 Lincoln Town Car
81-86 Mercury w/ 114" wheelbase

I checked an '86 Mercury Grand Marquis, and an '82 Town Car. Neither one had them. I'll keep searching for an '82 Continental.

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posted 09-06-2002 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BarrysGrrl   Click Here to Email BarrysGrrl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I repeat....1982 Lincoln Continental.......... ONLY !

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Moneymaker
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posted 09-06-2002 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That was ME above!

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Alex Denysenko
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TurboGT
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posted 09-06-2002 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TurboGT   Click Here to Email TurboGT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I certainly didn't mean to imply that I doubted you Alex, but thought I'd pass along what I found in Hollander's, especially the number. Obviously the Hollander info is wrong, since two of their listed applications didn't have the aluminum drums. I wonder where Hollander comes up with their info? They definitely aren't coming to the right place when it comes to Fords...M&M!!!

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Rory McNeil
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posted 09-07-2002 03:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rory McNeil   Click Here to Email Rory McNeil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wonder if it was like the aluminum brake drums on the early FOX Mustangs, some had them, but most don`t, prehaps Ford replaced the alum. drums with iron due to warranty problems? I`ll sure keep my eyes open for 82 Lincolns on my next wrecking yard "pilgramage"!!

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posted 09-07-2002 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK guys. The 82 Continental was the first of LM's "small" Lincolns. The Caddy SEVILLE look-a-like. Many of the other "full size" Lincolds still shared the Continental moniker until 1984 when enough of us dealer types screamed at FoMoCo to STOP the confusion. Hell, even the NEW 1984 Lincoln Mk VII was called a Continental. The just wouldn't give up that classic name. In 1983 the COntinental went to 4w disc brakes so th ealuminum drums were a one year only one car only option making them quite difficult to find. Hertz and Budget did buy thousands of them for their rental fleets though so lots wound up in junk yards.
Now, on the Fox 4 lug aluminum drums, I have that mystery solved also. The aluminum drums were installed on ALL Turbo Fox cars from 1979 to 1984 for some dumb reason and only Turbo cars. That included Fairmonts, Zephers, Capri's AND Mustangs. But remeber, ONLY the TURBOCHARGED cars. Stock or Auto and NOT the 84.5 SVO Mustang. That had it's own special brake set up.

I hope this clears things up some.

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Rory McNeil
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posted 09-08-2002 02:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rory McNeil   Click Here to Email Rory McNeil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Although they may have been changed before, I have found 3 pairs of the aluminum FOX brake drums on 6 cyl. 79-80 Mustangs & Capri`s. The same with the aluminum F&R bumper rebars for the 79-86 Mustang/Capri`s. I`ve found these on the odd nothing special 6 cyl. 79-80 or 81 Mustang & Capri. Most were steel, but some were aluminum. Alex, do you have the aluminum rebars on Tony`s Capri? Knocks 20 lbs right off the very front! I have 1 extra front, as well as a rear, but the shipping would be prohibitive(kinda bulky)

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posted 09-08-2002 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rory,as far as the drums go, you don't count! Your stuff is Canadian.

No, we don't have the "rebars" yet either. Still trying to find some Rory. I must have looked at 50-60 Mustang/Capri's and all were steel so far.

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Alex Denysenko
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n2oMike
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posted 09-08-2002 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for n2oMike   Click Here to Email n2oMike     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The 79' Pace cars came with aluminum rear bumpers. Look at SVO's for aluminum front bumpers. I believe they had aluminum on the rear as well.

You might get lucky and find them misplaced elsewhere, but these are the cars that came from the factory with them.

Good Luck!

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