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2BAD6568s
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From: South Point, Ohio, USA
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posted 09-04-2002 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2BAD6568s   Click Here to Email 2BAD6568s     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was talking to a friend of mine at church and he said he has two complete 460s that he will give me. I want to build one to bracket race with. What do you all recomend putting in the motor? (on a fairly tight budget) my goal is 10s in the 1/4
thanks, steven

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jsracingbbf
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posted 09-05-2002 12:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jsracingbbf   Click Here to Email jsracingbbf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How tight is tight? What year model engines are they? I would try to scare up a decent set of heads, early iron if you can't spring for some aftermarket Aluminum. I built a decent, but not radical motor for less than $8K. If it is a 2 bolt motor I would get a bottom end stud girdle.

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Jerry Smith
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mustangboy
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posted 09-05-2002 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mustangboy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did he happen to mention what year they were?(hopefully pre1972).What are you going to put it into?

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2BAD6568s
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posted 09-05-2002 06:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2BAD6568s   Click Here to Email 2BAD6568s     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im not sure what year they are but he did say that one is out of a big bodied thunderbird. I am just going to build them as I get the money so i will be able to spend whatever it takes. It is going into a 68 coupe later on down the road.

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2BAD6568s
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posted 09-05-2002 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2BAD6568s   Click Here to Email 2BAD6568s     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I found some Police Interceptor Heads part #C9VE-A. would these be a good choice. And what about a Performer RPM intake?

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F551
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posted 09-05-2002 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for F551   Click Here to Email F551     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To run 10s you need good aftermarket rods. We used CJ style/Truck rods with no success, they were fullfloating, magged, polished and shotpeened - would "stretch apart in the middle. Now use Eagle 6.8"rods with cast stroker crank - lives quite happily at 7000rpm.

Aluminum heads are way to go - saw a late model at the track last weekend that ran 10.88 with a low compression 514 with ported Performer RPM heads and a Victor.

Go with the Victor

Oh yeah that 514 was a mild hydraulic roller.
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Fred
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86 Mustang GT Cobra

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Greg Pettit
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posted 09-05-2002 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Greg Pettit   Click Here to Email Greg Pettit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
C9VE heads are not PI heads. They are standard passenger car castings.

D2OE are the PI castings.

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jsracingbbf
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posted 09-05-2002 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jsracingbbf   Click Here to Email jsracingbbf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If your going to do this a little at a time, I would start by estimating car weight with the BBF in it. Is this going to be a stick or auto car? RPM limit? I would try my best even if on a budget to get good rods, crank and if you could find some early SCJ heads that didn't require much work.... Or better yet spring for some aftermarket heads. Eagle rods do not cost alot and they are cheap insurance over stock, if you look at it. I prefer the Olivers myself but they cost more.

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Jerry Smith
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Big Block Capri
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posted 09-06-2002 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Big Block Capri   Click Here to Email Big Block Capri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can achieve your goal with cast pistons, stock rods and stock heads, but I wouldn't recommend it. Been there, done that. Run a forged piston with a good relief on the intake side. For piece of mind use an aftermarket rod with floating pins. You'll thank me in a few years. We didn't get into the 10's until we ran a cam with 245 duration @ .050 and .640 lift. Our heads are DOVE-C that I ported myself with 2.25 intake and 1.90 exhaust valves. We run a Stealth intake and an 800 Holley that Noah used on the Ark. Use good valve train components, like 3/8 pushrods, guide plates and roller rockers. It will save you alot of aggrevation in the long run. It took us several years to come up with our combination and we did it with Canadian dollars, so you know that we had to watch every penny. Now, I check the rockers every once in a while, wash it on Friday and go racing on Saturday. The car has run 10.26 in real good air (DA 150)but has run 10.50's all summer long (DA 3000+). The car weighs about 2850 with me in it. Now that I have given away all our secrets, it's Friday so I have to wash the car.
Steven, How far are you from Norwalk? We will be there October 3-6. We could get together and compare notes.
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Ryan Wilke
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posted 09-06-2002 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ryan Wilke   Click Here to Email Ryan Wilke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Big Block Capri:

...and an 800 Holley that Noah used on the Ark.


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!
That's the best one I've heard all day!!!!!

...I always wondered what powered that tub!!!

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F551
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posted 09-06-2002 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for F551   Click Here to Email F551     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey you know how everything on the Ark was in pairs - well I've got the other old 800 Holley!

It must be 25 years old but on the dyno there wasn't much difference to my brothers newer 850.

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Fred
68 Mustang 500CID/Powerglide - "No Tubs"
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Big Block Capri
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posted 09-07-2002 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Big Block Capri   Click Here to Email Big Block Capri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fred,
Is yours male or female? I don't know how to tell the difference.

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Paul Garant
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F551
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posted 09-07-2002 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for F551   Click Here to Email F551     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let's go half each on a tunnel ram and see which one gets bigger

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Fred
68 Mustang 500CID/Powerglide - "No Tubs"
86 Mustang GT Cobra

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