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BLUE
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From: COLLINSVILLE, IL
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posted 08-05-2002 10:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BLUE     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i think i have asked this before, but never got a straight answer, can anyone tell me the difference between b&m's transpak and their shift improver kit(besides the obvious cost difference) and has anyone used the shift improver kit.
thanks jeff

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Moneymaker
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posted 08-05-2002 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Straight answer???
Try asking a straight question!

We did answer last time, but you obviously missed it or forgot it.
One is a shift kit with parts to modify the valve body only.
The other is basically a high performance overhaul kit with clutches, steels, a band, gaskets, the shift kit and more.
Sarcasim in my answer??? Maybe.
Why? Why not? It's after 10:00 PM LOL.

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posted 08-06-2002 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, it's like the pickle vs the whole hamburger.

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BLUE
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posted 08-06-2002 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BLUE     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Moneymaker,
I am not calling you a liar! BUT i have a "transpak" for a th 700 r4 (i know, what are you doing with that) it has some separator plates(i guess thats what their called) a drill bit,gaskets and a filter!
this is called their transpak kit "three kits in one" came in about a shoebox size package, oh yeah and somme stickers(woohoo).
price $58
o.k. i have not seen their shift improver kit except at a local shop and summit, it says two kits one and comes in a package like a priority express envelope. price $26

Question: does anyone know the actual difference in these two kits?
Sorry about asking the same question but i want to get a kit, i dont know which one to get. if they are the same kit i will buy the cheaper of the two.
Thanks in advance
Jeff

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 08-06-2002 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see what the problem is. The Transpak is a shift kit, the Transkit has a shift kit and overhaul kit combined.

The difference between the Transpak and the Shift Improver, according to their web site http://www.bmracing.com/ is:

"The next step up from the Shift Improver Kit is the Transpak. It has all the features in the Shift Improver Kit plus it provides additional driver manual control (GM TH-400, 350, Ford C-6 & Chrysler Torqueflite only). Most stock automatic transmissions won't downshift into low gear above 15 mph, and automatically upshift at a predetermined speed no matter what gear you're in. With the Transpak, you can downshift at any speed, and you can hold the transmission in first gear to any speed that you want! This is an asset when you've got a modified engine, and you want additional RPMs, or you're towing a trailer or driving heavy loads downhill."

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70coupe
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posted 08-06-2002 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 70coupe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know what your talking about,I had one for the C6 and there isn't much to it! A filter,couple of plugs,ball bearings and thats about it.
sorry I couldn't answer the question but I do know what your talking about. Its definately not an overhaul kit.

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posted 08-07-2002 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK trans pak, trans kit, shift kit, shift improver kit, mess kit, kit carson, kitty cat, kitty litter, etc.
The cheap kit usually just has some instructions, a drill bit, a pattern, and a gasket or two. The better kit usually has some check balls, separator plates, gaskets and instructions. The better kit supposedly allows you to tailor the quality and firmness of the shift.
I do not like B&M stuff anyway.

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BLUE
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posted 08-07-2002 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BLUE     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
O.K. Moneymaker which one do you suggest?
Or anyone else for that matter! (90 AOD)

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jsracingbbf
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posted 08-07-2002 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jsracingbbf   Click Here to Email jsracingbbf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Blue,
What is it for? a daily driver? or a seldom driven on the street drag car? if it is on the track a good bit, I'd opt for a whole re-worked for racing valve body. which usually means full manual.

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posted 08-08-2002 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For AOD's we never install shift kits anymore. We get a complete exchange valve body from JPT. 517-663-0578 or [email protected] They work fantastic and bolt right in.
When I do use a shift kit, (which is almost never these days)I recomend a Trans-Go. We have used their products for years and have always enjoyed tremendous success.

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Bloose
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posted 08-08-2002 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bloose   Click Here to Email Bloose     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I used the Trans-go kit from Summit in my AOD. It works awesome and is far better than the B+M. You DO NOT want to use the B+M in the AOD, unless it is pretty much stock. The only problem you will have with the Trans-go kit is that you will need a newer valve body. They say the that the '93 and older suck anyway. I wound up getting a E9 core in town for $25. I would recommend you go the same route.

If you do choose the B+M (which I don't recommend) get the Trans Pak.

HTH,
B-loose

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BLUE
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posted 08-08-2002 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BLUE     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Help me out Bloose, what is an E9 valve body and where did you go to get that swap, a transmission shop? Hoe do you tell the difference in the years so if i do this i make sure i get the right one!
Moneymaker out of curiosity what would the valve body from JPT set me back?
BTW this car is a seldom driven street car which will see the track seldom.(until i get the new heads cam intake injectors mass air throttle body.............the list goes on and on but the funding is lacking at the moment.

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posted 08-08-2002 09:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
An E-9 valve body is from a 79 and up AOD.

JPT sells the valve bodies ready to go for about $125 exchange I believe. Just bolt it in and shift BANG!

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