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Topic: Water pumps, electric drive vs belt?
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Rory McNeil Gearhead Posts: 1687 From: Surrey, B.C. Canada Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 05-21-2002 12:09 PM
I recently put a new stock style Edelbrock alum. water pump on my 428. I usually ran a stock (heavy!) cast iron pump, along with an electric water pump drive. Since the new pump has some drag when turning the flange, I thought I would run it with a stock V belt setup for a while, to try and "loosen it up" a bit.I normally just ran a stock truck lower pulley on the damper & a 4" Moroso alt. pulley, so I added a matching truck WP pulley & a longer fan belt. I noticed that the engine runs much cooler this way, I entered the burnout box at 150 degrees, made my run, & after driving back to the pits, it was only at 165 degrees. Nice! With the old setup, I`d enter the burnout box at 140, & I`d be close to 200 degrees when I got back to the pit area. The nice thing about the electric set up, was you could leave the pump circulating for 10 or 15 minutes with engine off to bring the temp down, but late round hot lapping often meant dumping the hot water.Anyhow, what I`m trying to find out, is has anyone compared the ET differance between the belt driven pump vs the electric drive? Between the pump & the heavy slick tubes in my other post, & some humidity, I`m about 1 1/2 tenths & 2 MPH slower than my previous best numbers. Which item is the worst? I`ll be trying my electric pump drive in 2 weeks, but I`m looking for opinions on this.Thanks.------------------ 78 Fairmont 428 4 speed 10.20@130mph 80 Fairmont 302 5 speed 12.8@105mph 85 Mustang NHRA Stocker under construction, 302 5 speed
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mustangboy Gearhead Posts: 1147 From: Ont, Canada Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 05-21-2002 06:45 PM
This isn't a direct comparison but when I take the belt off my power steering its good for a tenth.I would think your water pump would take at least as much power to turn if not more.
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Rory McNeil Gearhead Posts: 1687 From: Surrey, B.C. Canada Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 05-21-2002 07:36 PM
I beleive that. On my 302 5 speed Fairmont streeter, I sometimes remove both the PS, & the alt/water pump belt. This leaves the crank turning nothing, & have picked up almost THREE tenths! Of course the engine must be fairly cool to allow this, & I put the belts back on before I drive back to the pits, but it works.------------------ 78 Fairmont 428 4 speed 10.20@130mph 80 Fairmont 302 5 speed 12.8@105mph 85 Mustang NHRA Stocker under construction, 302 5 speed
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